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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    Not sure I understand what doubling down on affirmative action means to you. Asians stand to benefit from affirmative action, many being oppressed minorities.
    no they dont. Numerous studies have shown that AA makes it harder for Asians to get into college.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    Leaving tsukes idiocy aside you have to be joking with last sentence
    Yes it is idiocy for Republicans to try and expand their voter base to include more Asians.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tsuke View Post
    Yes it is idiocy for Republicans to try and expand their voter base to include more Asians.
    No, your obsession with identity politics is stupid

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    No, your obsession with identity politics is stupid
    because it is an issue used by the left which we can coopt to our benefit. Of course standard republicans wouldnt even consider that which is why they were ready to be routed by clinton.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackascoal View Post
    GOP tax plan spells disaster for Asian-Americans

    (CNN)It says something about the present state of the Republican Party that some of the leadership are likely breathing a sigh of relief that the horrific distraction du jour -- e.g., "traditional values"-focused US Senate candidate Roy Moore facing accusations of sexually predatory behavior toward minors -- is stealing the spotlight from its disastrous plan for tax reform.

    Let's get the headlines out of the way: Under both versions of the plan, issuing from the House and the Senate respectively, the richest 1% in our country and big corporations will get an enormous windfall, which will cause the federal deficit to soar by as much as $1.5 trillion over the next decade. Neither does much to help the vast majority of Americans. But -- depending on what mess emerges from the conferences that will weave the two versions into a common compromise -- some groups will be disproportionately harmed. Among them are Asian-Americans, who have voted increasingly with the Democratic Party over the past few decades, and may have even more reason to do so in the coming ones if this bill passes.

    Both the House and Senate plans eliminate many tax breaks, though they also roughly double the standard deduction, which makes it tricky to determine definitively whether someone's tax bill will go up. An expanded child tax credit to go along with rate reductions across middle income brackets would also create, at least in the near term, some tangible benefit.

    We do know the GOP House version of tax reform ends tax deductions for student loans, while taxing free tuition as if it were ordinary income. The plan would hit people with student loans with tax hikes of up to $625 a year on top of their already-onerous payments, and --- by forcing them to pay taxes on free tuition -- slam grad students with annual taxes reflecting as much as three times the income they get in actual salary.

    The net result would likely be a major penalty for those who choose to go to college, and an even greater one for those who pursue advanced degrees. Asian-Americans would be devastated by this change as the group with the highest rate of college and graduate school attendance in the nation: More than half of Asians in the United States 25 and older have at least a bachelor's degree, compared with about 28% of Americans in general, and 21% have advanced degrees, versus 10% of all Americans.

    The impact on education may not limit itself to college either: The GOP House plan ends a $250 tax break for teachers who buy their own classroom supplies. The deduction is tiny in the grand scheme of things, saving just a few million, but considering that the average teacher spends more than $500 out of pocket for classes without reimbursement from cash-strapped schools, its impact on elementary and primary education would be substantial. The enrollment of Asian-Americans in public schools is projected to increase by 50% over the next decade, about the same rate of increase as Hispanics; all other groups are projected to see public school enrollment fall over the same period. The House and Senate are at odds on how to proceed: After the House's tax bill drew outcry for removing the $250 deduction, the Senate bill was adjusted not only to restore the deduction but also to double it to $500.

    Meanwhile, both the Senate and House versions of the plan hammer people who live in states that have higher income taxes, such as California and New York. The Senate bill eliminates SALT -- state and local tax -- deductions, which historically have been deductible from federal taxes to eliminate "double taxation." (The House bill does keep one deduction of up to $10,000 for local property taxes but eliminates the rest.) As it turns out, states with the highest state and local taxes in the nation -- California, Oregon, New Jersey, New York and Hawaii among them -- are home to more than half of the Asian-American population.

    The impact of the GOP tax plan is going to be felt by everyone who doesn't belong to the narrow, plutocratic segment of American society that includes President Donald Trump and many in his administration, the wealthiest in modern history. What's ironic is that, just a generation ago, Asian-Americans voted in nearly equal percentages for Republicans and Democrats, driven primarily by the perception that -- despite extreme positions on social issues that most Asian-Americans do not share -- the former were more fiscally prudent, and more likely to protect small entrepreneurs and the aspirational middle class.

    This reform proposal makes it clear that Republicans are not interested in advancing policies that benefit anyone but their most deep-pocketed donors. Meanwhile, Asian-Americans watch as Trump and the party he leads continue to threaten trade war with China, nuclear war on the Korean Peninsula and a war on the basic American values of birthright citizenship and family reunification immigration. It doesn't sound like they'll be winning back the vote of the fastest-growing population in America anytime soon.
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    well its a good thing then democrat policies make it harder for asian americans to attend the college of their choice right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TOP View Post
    Actually, a mixed race man elected POTUS. Twice. Be correct, now
    We do need to celebrate bi-racial children. I do every single day
    weren't liberals all about labeling mixed race people as white? or was that just hispanic mixed races who defended themselves against a thug teenager bashing his head in the concrete sidewalk?
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tsuke View Post
    because it is an issue used by the left which we can coopt to our benefit. Of course standard republicans wouldnt even consider that which is why they were ready to be routed by clinton.
    1) Polls showed Republicans beating her, Trump's ass just barely won

    2) It is not a benefit to the party; it's a long term losing strategy. Nor is it the type of party we stand for or want to be

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    Seriously. Republicans used to be the most ruthless, savvy, guileful and intelligent plutocrats anywhere. Tinker Taylor Soldier Spy types.
    How did they let a bunch of church people, racists, frauds, Luddites, John Birch clones, Nazis and assorted miscreants successfully mutiny?
    You know, all the assorteed scumbags they used to patronize but could not find a spoon long enough to sup with. Didn't they have a plan for this?
    A poison pill? A secret file stored in the back of a long Hon in a dark, dank inward facing storage room at the Pentagon to be consulted for just
    this eventuality?

    How the hell did this happen? I'm pissed off at real Republicans. Clean your fucking house. We had an understanding, you and I.

    Deplorables and proud of it

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    Quote Originally Posted by signalmankenneth View Post

    Deplorables and proud of it
    Says the guy ripping on women for their eye liner and color of dress. Ok for you to be sexist but not others right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by signalmankenneth View Post
    and yet, they still voted for him over you..........how much more deplorable are you, hillary?
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    Says the guy ripping on women for their eye liner and color of dress. Ok for you to be sexist but not others right?
    Ripping on eyeliner and dress color is sexist? No, technically that's being catty. Lol
    I routinely call Trump the big orange hog. If I was being sexist I'd excuse his hirsute porcine fatback qualities and concentrate of the dames.

    Everyone knows that a Republican started that thread (Huckabee) and for the purpose of eliciting the responses that were given. Garbage in-garbage out.
    Blame the OP starter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Getin the ring View Post
    you don't have to pay attention if you don't want to , but please don't ask me stupid questions
    I never do, child.

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