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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Lifelong conservative David Brooks wrote an editorial this week, the premise being that the modern Republican Party is now repulsive to millennials and people of color.
    IMO republicans stand to make decent gains with Asians if they double down on affirmative action and frame it as unjust discrimination against Asians. Let democrats defend how owning black slaves benifeted them.

    Then you would have an asian-white coalition on one hand and a black-brown coaltion on another. Concurrently you run an offensive dividing them by framing illegal immigration as driving down wages of blacks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tsuke View Post
    IMO republicans stand to make decent gains with Asians if they double down on affirmative action and frame it as unjust discrimination against Asians. Let democrats defend how owning black slaves benifeted them.

    Then you would have an asian-white coalition on one hand and a black-brown coaltion on another. Concurrently you run an offensive dividing them by framing illegal immigration as driving down wages of blacks.
    When you stop allowing people proper politics, you let the racist ranters in. Heil Trump, and Death to Sense!

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    Quote Originally Posted by iolo View Post
    When you stop allowing people proper politics, you let the racist ranters in. Heil Trump, and Death to Sense!
    heil trump brother iolo!
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    I'd guess you probably need an apostrophe-s there, tsuke. Doesn't on the face of it make more than Republican-racist sense.

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    we "deplorables" were the only chance this country had before sliding into the abyss

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    Quote Originally Posted by Getin the ring View Post
    we "deplorables" were the only chance this country had before sliding into the abyss

    you're welcome
    So what are you going to do now you're there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by iolo View Post
    So what are you going to do now you're there?
    you don't have to pay attention if you don't want to , but please don't ask me stupid questions
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    Quote Originally Posted by Getin the ring View Post
    we "deplorables" were the only chance this country had before sliding into the abyss

    you're welcome
    one might say the deplorables were the perfect antidote to the demmycrats.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by iolo View Post
    So what are you going to do now you're there?
    make sure America doesn't become another Wales......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Lifelong conservative David Brooks wrote an editorial this week, the premise being that the modern Republican Party is now repulsive to millennials and people of color.
    Brooks is a NYTs establishment RINO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tsuke View Post
    IMO republicans stand to make decent gains with Asians if they double down on affirmative action and frame it as unjust discrimination against Asians. Let democrats defend how owning black slaves benifeted them.

    Then you would have an asian-white coalition on one hand and a black-brown coaltion on another. Concurrently you run an offensive dividing them by framing illegal immigration as driving down wages of blacks.
    Not sure I understand what doubling down on affirmative action means to you. Asians stand to benefit from affirmative action, many being oppressed minorities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    Not sure I understand what doubling down on affirmative action means to you. Asians stand to benefit from affirmative action, many being oppressed minorities.
    Leaving tsukes idiocy aside you have to be joking with last sentence

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    Leaving tsukes idiocy aside you have to be joking with last sentence
    Funny, I don't recall the WASP interment camps. or rich white males being excluded from country clubs in Connecticut.

    I don't work in government contracting, but I understand that preferences are available to minority owned businesses.
    If there is serious money to be made, why would asian ethnic minorities not take advantage of it? Just being pragmatic.
    If the boxes can be checked, who with a brain punts on it? Tsuke is saying he can forge some wedge coalition that offers no benefit to
    an "Asian" constituency. Asians don't benefit from blacks being denied affirmative action benefits to my mind, and Asians seem to me to
    historically qualify for help. What box is not checked? What is the test? I don't think SAT scores enter into it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    Funny, I don't recall the WASP interment camps. or rich white males being excluded from country clubs in Connecticut.

    I don't work in government contracting, but I understand that preferences are available to minority owned businesses.
    If there is serious money to be made, why would asian ethnic minorities not take advantage of it? Just being pragmatic.
    If the boxes can be checked, who with a brain punts on it? Tsuke is saying he can forge some wedge coalition that offers no benefit to
    an "Asian" constituency. Asians don't benefit from blacks being denied affirmative action benefits to my mind, and Asians seem to me to
    historically qualify for help. What box is not checked? What is the test? I don't think SAT scores enter into it.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/02/u...americans.html

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    GOP tax plan spells disaster for Asian-Americans

    (CNN)It says something about the present state of the Republican Party that some of the leadership are likely breathing a sigh of relief that the horrific distraction du jour -- e.g., "traditional values"-focused US Senate candidate Roy Moore facing accusations of sexually predatory behavior toward minors -- is stealing the spotlight from its disastrous plan for tax reform.

    Let's get the headlines out of the way: Under both versions of the plan, issuing from the House and the Senate respectively, the richest 1% in our country and big corporations will get an enormous windfall, which will cause the federal deficit to soar by as much as $1.5 trillion over the next decade. Neither does much to help the vast majority of Americans. But -- depending on what mess emerges from the conferences that will weave the two versions into a common compromise -- some groups will be disproportionately harmed. Among them are Asian-Americans, who have voted increasingly with the Democratic Party over the past few decades, and may have even more reason to do so in the coming ones if this bill passes.

    Both the House and Senate plans eliminate many tax breaks, though they also roughly double the standard deduction, which makes it tricky to determine definitively whether someone's tax bill will go up. An expanded child tax credit to go along with rate reductions across middle income brackets would also create, at least in the near term, some tangible benefit.

    We do know the GOP House version of tax reform ends tax deductions for student loans, while taxing free tuition as if it were ordinary income. The plan would hit people with student loans with tax hikes of up to $625 a year on top of their already-onerous payments, and --- by forcing them to pay taxes on free tuition -- slam grad students with annual taxes reflecting as much as three times the income they get in actual salary.

    The net result would likely be a major penalty for those who choose to go to college, and an even greater one for those who pursue advanced degrees. Asian-Americans would be devastated by this change as the group with the highest rate of college and graduate school attendance in the nation: More than half of Asians in the United States 25 and older have at least a bachelor's degree, compared with about 28% of Americans in general, and 21% have advanced degrees, versus 10% of all Americans.

    The impact on education may not limit itself to college either: The GOP House plan ends a $250 tax break for teachers who buy their own classroom supplies. The deduction is tiny in the grand scheme of things, saving just a few million, but considering that the average teacher spends more than $500 out of pocket for classes without reimbursement from cash-strapped schools, its impact on elementary and primary education would be substantial. The enrollment of Asian-Americans in public schools is projected to increase by 50% over the next decade, about the same rate of increase as Hispanics; all other groups are projected to see public school enrollment fall over the same period. The House and Senate are at odds on how to proceed: After the House's tax bill drew outcry for removing the $250 deduction, the Senate bill was adjusted not only to restore the deduction but also to double it to $500.

    Meanwhile, both the Senate and House versions of the plan hammer people who live in states that have higher income taxes, such as California and New York. The Senate bill eliminates SALT -- state and local tax -- deductions, which historically have been deductible from federal taxes to eliminate "double taxation." (The House bill does keep one deduction of up to $10,000 for local property taxes but eliminates the rest.) As it turns out, states with the highest state and local taxes in the nation -- California, Oregon, New Jersey, New York and Hawaii among them -- are home to more than half of the Asian-American population.

    The impact of the GOP tax plan is going to be felt by everyone who doesn't belong to the narrow, plutocratic segment of American society that includes President Donald Trump and many in his administration, the wealthiest in modern history. What's ironic is that, just a generation ago, Asian-Americans voted in nearly equal percentages for Republicans and Democrats, driven primarily by the perception that -- despite extreme positions on social issues that most Asian-Americans do not share -- the former were more fiscally prudent, and more likely to protect small entrepreneurs and the aspirational middle class.

    This reform proposal makes it clear that Republicans are not interested in advancing policies that benefit anyone but their most deep-pocketed donors. Meanwhile, Asian-Americans watch as Trump and the party he leads continue to threaten trade war with China, nuclear war on the Korean Peninsula and a war on the basic American values of birthright citizenship and family reunification immigration. It doesn't sound like they'll be winning back the vote of the fastest-growing population in America anytime soon.
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