'Please don't kill me': Cop cleared of murder after shooting dead a sobbing father

**Русский агент** · 12-09-2017, 08:37 PM

Originally Posted by countryboy

Look man, I haven't seen them today, and I'm not going to disturb their weekend with this bullshit. They are good cops, and it doesn't take an Einstein to see this guy was an asshole. There's no reason to behave in such an irresponsible manner, exacerbating an already tense situation. I'll ask them when I see them. I'm not sure why you feel the need to be so snarky. I support law enforcement, and I am allowed to have an opinion.

Cool story, granpa.

**USFREEDOM911** · 12-10-2017, 01:23 AM

Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou

the officer was fired for a totally separate issue that had nothing to do with the shooting.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight!! :;good4u:

**USFREEDOM911** · 12-10-2017, 01:24 AM

Originally Posted by countryboy

Look man, I haven't seen them today, and I'm not going to disturb their weekend with this bullshit. They are good cops, and it doesn't take an Einstein to see this guy was an asshole. There's no reason to behave in such an irresponsible manner, exacerbating an already tense situation. I'll ask them when I see them. I'm not sure why you feel the need to be so snarky. I support law enforcement, and I am allowed to have an opinion.

Is that what I said or are you projecting your own feelings of inadequacy!!

**USFREEDOM911** · 12-10-2017, 01:25 AM

Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou

it's obvious I have you on the ropes when trying to mock me is all you have left LOL

But when all you do is rant, all that's left is mocking you; regardless of how you want to describe it.

**Русский агент** · 12-10-2017, 01:39 AM

Originally Posted by USFREEDOM911

Is that what I said or are you projecting your own feelings of inadequacy!!

Maybe he has to drink a lot before he can "see" these "cop friends" who all just happen to agree with him 100%.

**tinfoil** · 12-10-2017, 04:24 AM

Originally Posted by USFREEDOM911

Man I'm so glad that JPP has so many members who have decided to join their local PD and make a difference.

Unfortunately I have too high of an IQ for the police to hire me.

**USFREEDOM911** · 12-10-2017, 04:47 AM

Originally Posted by tinfoil

Unfortunately I have too high of an IQ for the police to hire me.

Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure you do.

**tinfoil** · 12-10-2017, 05:02 AM

Originally Posted by USFREEDOM911

Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure you do.

It's not hard. When they only hire people below average, it means there are about half of us too damn smart to be cops

**cancel2 2022** · 12-10-2017, 05:03 AM

Originally Posted by tinfoil

It's not hard. When they only hire people below average, it means there are about half of us too damn smart to be cops

Do yo think they have a maximum IQ requirement?

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**RB 60** · 12-10-2017, 05:13 AM

Originally Posted by tinfoil

Unfortunately I have too high of an IQ for the police to hire me.

You've yet to prove that since I've been a member here!
But keep tryin'

**Thumper** · 12-10-2017, 05:34 AM

This is what happens when professionals go to court with jury's filled with the uneducated.

Trial by a jury of peers. Civilians are not the peers of sworn officers. But at the same time filling the jury with other LEO'S invites even more corruption into this system.

Had I been on that jury I'd of convinced each member of the jury that be was guilty during deliberations.

**RB 60** · 12-10-2017, 06:37 AM

Originally Posted by Thumper

This is what happens when professionals go to court with jury's filled with the uneducated.

Trial by a jury of peers. Civilians are not the peers of sworn officers. But at the same time filling the jury with other LEO'S invites even more corruption into this system.

Had I been on that jury I'd of convinced each member of the jury that be was guilty during deliberations.

No, you would not have "convinced" each member of anything. I was a jury foreman on a Federal court case involving "sworn officers" (who withheld evidence in a high profile murder trial) and we had one juror who tried to "convince" everyone his "opinion" was unconditional. I told him his opinion would be discussed with the same merit the other 11 members would. Those deliberations lasted over a week until we finally agreed upon a verdict. Interestingly enough, it was he who "modified" his opinion after much discussion for us to reach a unanimous decision.

That said, this officer fired 5 rounds at a man crawling on the floor with his weapon (and other officer's weapons) trained on him. The officer had enough time to make a decision to fire, even if that individual did pull a weapon from behind his back. He definitely overreacted in this situation.

**tinfoil** · 12-10-2017, 06:38 AM

Originally Posted by Shape Shifter

Do yo think they have a maximum IQ requirement?

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It's a fact. They were sued and they justified the practice by the logic that smart people would not stick around on the job for long so they were not worth investing the time for training.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/court-oks-b...story?id=95836

**SmarterthanYou** · 12-10-2017, 08:19 AM

Originally Posted by USFREEDOM911

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight!! :;good4u:

eh, believe me or not. I don't care. several articles state that he was fired a few months after the shooting for departmental policy violations unrelated to the shooting. so, whatever.

**cawacko** · 12-10-2017, 09:14 AM

Originally Posted by Thumper

This is what happens when professionals go to court with jury's filled with the uneducated.

Trial by a jury of peers. Civilians are not the peers of sworn officers. But at the same time filling the jury with other LEO'S invites even more corruption into this system.

Had I been on that jury I'd of convinced each member of the jury that be was guilty during deliberations.

Not sure if serious but it has nothing to do with the jury being uneducated when the laws are set up a certain way