The Myth of the 1970s "Global Cooling" Scientific Consensus

[Phantasmal]

Don't watch the news, eh?

Wow, that’s unbelievable, I thought he considered himself a champion of women and he makes a statement like that. Not worth my time to educate him.

[Cancel 2020.1]

Wow, that’s unbelievable, I thought he considered himself a champion of women and he makes a statement like that. Not worth my time to educate him.

We should be careful - I'm sure we're both "just like Desh!" now....

[Phantasmal]

We should be careful - I'm sure we're both "just like Desh!" now....

I have been for a long time, he always pulls that insult card, cawacko, too, it just Makes me smile!

[Superfreak]

Wow, that’s unbelievable, I thought he considered himself a champion of women and he makes a statement like that. Not worth my time to educate him.

In other words, you can't answer it.

[Micawber]

Just curious... but where is it we don't have equal rights for men and women right now?

Everywhere.

[Cypress]

A myth perpetuated by Exxon.
https://skeptoid.com/episodes/4487

https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...-40-years-ago/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.the...-change-danger

http://www.iflscience.com/environmen...ange-denial-0/

I know! I was there!

Not in the thick of it, but enough to know that within the hallways and meeting rooms of the corporate oil patch, they didn't really think the science of climate change was necessarily wrong or drastically off the mark -- they were always more concerned with climate science being a threat to their business model -- aka extracting and burning hydrocarbons from the earth.

Hushing up their own corporate scientists is worthy of a movie plot!

[Phantasmal]

If congress passes the tax bill and the economy is booming, I’ll be sure to remind you of your prediction lol.

The tax bill for the rich that all Trump and Berners campaigned against? I don’t think that is going to help!

Fewer than a third of Americans back Trump tax plan: Reuters/Ipsos poll

https://www.goog Fewer than a third of Americans back Trump tax plan: Reuters/Ipsos poll le.com/amp/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN1CT2TD

[Cypress]

Republicans and oil motivated conservatives know they are on the outside and downside on this and all other issues so they are required to make fake stories up.
This one is similar to the neoconfederate racist technique of rewriting history and feeding those falsehoods as facts to receptive racist southern idiots who will repeat the
myth as fact.

An ice age myth is probably originally sourced to 1970s National Enquirer.

Well, I actually remember what happened because I was a teenager interested in science. And there were a few magazine articles and a few bits on television about some people speculating about another ice age.

But, as the article I posted convincingly shows, there was no scientific consensus about "global cooling" -- in fact most mainstream science even at that time was looking into the possibility that human emission of CO2 would warm the plant.

Another rightwing myth down the toilet!

[Micawber]

Well, I actually remember what happened because I was a teenager interested in science. And there were a few magazine articles and a few bits on television about some people speculating about another ice age.

But, as the article I posted convincingly shows, there was no scientific consensus about "global cooling" -- in fact most mainstream science even at that time was looking into the possibility that human emission of CO2 would warm the plant.

Another rightwing myth down the toilet!

Yes I read yours. I also found a source recounting the history from new then creditable source material. With satellites only up for a decade and the science data being scant and novel there was no consensus. Now with decades of data, myriad sources, and a developed science there is a total consensus. The idea that science can't be trusted based on that experience is bunk for multiple reasons -apples to aardvarks.

[Boris The Animal]

Here's the thing about Dumbshitocrats. They think they alone are qualified to rule the masses.

[Micawber]

Here's the thing about Dumbshitocrats. They think they alone are qualified to rule the masses.

Stop forcing that conclusion on us.

[Micawber]

Excellent choice for thread bans, by the way. All stupid.

[Cypress]

Excellent choice for thread bans, by the way. All stupid.

I was never personally a fan of the ban feature, for myself.

But, this board had been so overrun by racists, sexists, dunces, pathological liars, libelers, and losers. While the board owners encourage it, I really shouldn't allow my threads to provide them a platform to pollute cyberspace. I have decided that is one small role I can play for the benefit of humanity!

[Cypress]

Despite Trump, Americans are taking Vigorous Climate Action

WASHINGTON DC, Nov 13 2017 (IPS) – Even after President Trump announced his intention to pull the United States out of the Paris Agreement, much of the country is moving forward with climate action anyway. According to new analysis, more than 2,500 non-federal actors representing more than half the U.S. economy—including cities, counties, states, businesses and more—have pledged their support for the Paris Agreement goals. If these actors were their own country, they’d be the world’s third-largest economy.

American States, Cities and Businesses Are Reducing Emissions

In addition to the 10 states with cap-and-trade programs and 96 U.S. businesses using internal carbon prices, our analysis shows that non-federal actors are already reducing emissions from major sectors. For example:

• Electricity Generation: Twenty-nine states, representing more than half (56 percent) of retail electricity sales in the country, have mandatory renewable portfolio standards, with nine others setting voluntary renewable energy goals.
• Transportation: Thirty U.S. cities have committed $10 billion to purchase 114,000 electric vehicles (EVs) for their municipal fleets—a number roughly equivalent to all the EVs sold in the country in the first eight months of 2017.
• Building and Industrial Energy Use: More than 400 companies, representing more than 13 percent of total U.S. commercial building space, and almost 2,600 industrial facilities have voluntarily committed to reduce their energy use through the U.S. Department of Energy’s Better Buildings / Better Plants program.
• Methane Emissions: Methane is up to 36 times more potent than CO2 and is emitted from several sources, including landfills. Twenty states have bond, grant, loan or rebate programs that support development of landfill gas-to-energy projects, which capture methane to use for electricity generation.
• Hydrofluorocarbon (HFC) Emissions: HFCs are up to 12,000 times more potent than CO2 and are used in refrigeration, air-conditioning, building insulation and other applications. Forty-three supermarkets have committed to reducing their HFC emissions, with 533 individual stores becoming certified under this program since 2008.
• Land-use and Forestry: More than 3,000 communities are implementing urban forestry measures through Tree City USA, including maintaining a tree board or department and having a community tree ordinance.

The Low-carbon Transition Is Taking Off in Several Key Sectors

Cleaner energy and electric transportation are emerging as not just emissions-reduction leaders, but cost-savings leaders as well. Within the electricity sector, coal is no longer competitive with cheaper renewable energy and natural gas, thanks to state-level clean energy mandates, declining clean technology costs, low-cost and cleaner-burning natural gas, citizen mobilization against dirty power plants and Congressionally approved renewable tax credits.
For example, in August 2017, the Department of Energy announced that its “SunShot” target to make solar power cost competitive with conventional forms of energy had been met three years early.

Within the buildings sector, energy efficiency gains have outpaced most official projections: Since 2005, the EIA’s estimate for 2025 total energy use by U.S. buildings has dropped by more than 20 percent. The transportation sector has overtaken electricity as the largest source of U.S. emissions, but is also potentially on the cusp of major change. For example, electric vehicles are widely anticipated to be less expensive and have lower lifetime costs than conventional vehicles by 2025-29.

Decarbonization and GDP Growth Are Happening Simultaneously

Falling clean technology prices, emerging innovations, and actions by states, cities and businesses have helped reduce U.S. net greenhouse gas emissions by 11.5 percent between 2005 and 2015, while the economy grew by 15 percent over that period. This has allowed states, businesses and cities to take on steeper emissions-reduction targets and accelerated renewable energy commitments. For example, nine Northeastern states have implemented the Regional Greenhouse Gas Initiative (RGGI) to create a market-based system that reduces electric sector emissions 2.5 percent a year through 2020. RGGI has reduced power sector CO2 emissions more than 45 percent since 2005 while the region’s per-capita GDP continued to grow.

In August, RGGI announced that it will accelerate emissions reductions over the next decade to provide an additional 30 percent cap on 2030 power sector emissions, compared to 2020 levels.

full article https://www.juancole.com/2017/11/des...-vigorous.html

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[Boris The Animal]

Stop forcing that conclusion on us.

Really? Can't deny the truth, huh? Cannot accept the fact that we need a strong and solid Conservative majority in the US to put a stranglehold on the Left.