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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    Exactly the point. If you don't believe Moore's accusers then you shouldn't believe Clinton's accusers either.
    Wouldn't that make the inverse true also - If you didn't believe Clinton's accusers, then you shouldn't believe Moore's accusers either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    Your goalpost move is noted. I certainly hope you're not trying to say that if he was guilty of one, he was guilty of all. Even you couldn't be that stupid.
    not at all....I'm just saying that if he's guilty of one, why are you wasting your time arguing he's not guilty?......

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    Quote Originally Posted by USFREEDOM911 View Post
    Wouldn't that make the inverse true also - If you didn't believe Clinton's accusers, then you shouldn't believe Moore's accusers either.

    You really don't think things through, prior to hitting the "post button"; HUH!!
    instead of believing Clinton's accusers we can just believe Clinton......

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    not at all....I'm just saying that if he's guilty of one, why are you wasting your time arguing he's not guilty?......
    Show the post where I said categorically that he's not guilty, thanx.


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    Quote Originally Posted by USFREEDOM911 View Post
    Wouldn't that make the inverse true also - If you didn't believe Clinton's accusers, then you shouldn't believe Moore's accusers either.

    You really don't think things through, prior to hitting the "post button"; HUH!!
    I asked the same question. I got nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    Show the post where I said categorically that he's not guilty, thanx.
    so then, you agree that there is no need for further proof that Clinton is guilty......and that so far Moore's guilt has not been proven......isn't that what we were arguing about?.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    Exactly the point. If you don't believe Moore's accusers then you shouldn't believe Clinton's accusers either.
    Then why did Hillary get all fired up and tell the attorneys she wanted to get busy getting private eyes to find dirt on the women? Why bother if she believes Bubba's version of events? She would just relax and let the truth come out if he's innocent of more bimbo eruptions. Instead, the attorneys had to convince her that it wasn't such a hot idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    Then why did Hillary get all fired up and tell the attorneys she wanted to get busy getting private eyes to find dirt on the women? Why bother if she believes Bubba's version of events? She would just relax and let the truth come out if he's innocent of more bimbo eruptions. Instead, the attorneys had to convince her that it wasn't such a hot idea.
    I never heard that. Was this during the campaign?


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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    not at all....I'm just saying that if he's guilty of one, why are you wasting your time arguing he's not guilty?......
    Where have I argued that he's not guilty? Link up.


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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    I never heard that. Was this during the campaign?
    Bill Clinton is facing NEW accusations of sexual assault by four women while the former president was working with a billionaire playboy and flying on his private jet nicknamed Air F**k One, claims Clinton author.

    Edward Klein is the former editor in chief of the New York Times Magazine and the author of numerous bestsellers including his fourth book on the Clintons, Guilty as Sin, in 2016. His latest book is All Out War: The Plot to Destroy Trump was released on October 30, 2017.

    Bill Clinton is facing explosive new charges of sexual assault from four women, according to highly placed Democratic Party sources and an official who served in both the Clinton and Obama administrations.

    The current accusations against the 71-year-old former president — whose past is littered with charges of sexual misconduct — stem from the period after he left the White House in 2001, say the sources.

    Attorneys representing the women, who are coordinating their efforts, have notified Clinton they are preparing to file four separate lawsuits against him.

    As part of the ongoing negotiations, the attorneys for the women are asking for substantial payouts in return for their clients' silence.

    A member of Clinton's legal team has confirmed the existence of the new allegations.

    Back in the late 1990s, Clinton paid $850,000 to settle a sexual harassment lawsuit by Paula Jones, a former Arkansas state employee whose case led to Clinton's impeachment in the House of Representatives and his subsequent acquittal by the Senate in 1999.

    The negotiations in the new lawsuits are said to have reached a critical stage.

    If they fail, according to sources in Clinton's inner circle, the four women are said to be ready to air their accusations of sexual assault at a press conference, making Clinton the latest — and most famous — figure in a long list of men from Harvey Weinstein to Kevin Spacey who have recently been accused of sexual assault.

    The new allegations refer to incidents that took place more than 10 years ago, in the early 2000s, when Clinton was hired by Ron Burkle, the playboy billionaire investor, to work at his Yucaipa companies.

    Clinton helped Burkle generate business and flew around the world with a flock of beautiful young women on Burkle's private jet, which was nicknamed 'Air F**k One.'

    The four women, who have not yet revealed their identities, were employed in low-level positions at the Burkle organization when they were in their late teens and claim they were sexually assaulted by the former president.

    There is no evidence that Burkle knew anything about these alleged assaults by Clinton.

    Contacted for a comment on the women's allegations, a member of Clinton's legal team said: 'Obviously, I'm aware of [the allegations] but can't talk about them.'

    The new charges are likely to revive the debate over why Democrats defended Clinton during the Monica Lewinsky scandal and why liberals and feminists ignored credible charges of sexual assault against the 42nd president, not only from Paula Jones, but also from Juanita Broaddrick, Kathleen Willey, and others.

    'Bill is distraught at the thought of having to testify and defend himself against sex charges again,' said a Democratic Party official who is familiar with the case.

    'He hopes his legal team can somehow stop the women from filing charges and drag him through the mud.'

    The source added that Hillary Clinton is furious with her husband for getting entangled in yet another sexual scandal.

    She reportedly offered to hire private detectives to dig up dirt on the women, but Bill Clinton's attorneys persuaded her to not interfere.


    'In the past Hillary had a team of detectives that managed to silence a number of women in Little Rock who had complaints about Bill's unwanted sexual advances,' said the source.

    'But now Hillary admits there's a different atmosphere in our culture about sexual harassment and it's not possible to intimidate women into silence about charges once they make up their mind to speak up.

    'Hillary wants to remain in the public eye as a leader of the resistance to Donald Trump and play a major role in politics for years to come, including maybe even running for president again in 2020,' the source continued.

    'She's afraid this latest scandal could destroy the Clinton legacy and torpedo her plans.

    'The relationship between Bill and Hillary has been more of a business relationship for a number of years, except when it comes to their daughter and grandchildren.

    'They haven't lived as man and wife for a number of years, mostly due to Bill's running around with other women.

    'It became obvious years ago that even age wasn't going to make Bill settle down and stop chasing women. Hillary has simply ignored it and lived her separate life.

    'Bill spends a great deal of his time in his penthouse apartment above the Clinton Presidential Library in Little Rock.

    'Hillary occasionally goes to Little Rock, but she refuses to stay in the apartment because she knows that's his love nest.'


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    OMG Edward Klein. I will have to look further than that hit piece.

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    Klein received extensive criticism for his 2005 biography of Hillary Clinton, The Truth About Hillary. Politico criticized the book for "serious factual errors, truncated and distorted quotes and overall themes [that] don't gibe with any other serious accounts of Clinton's life."[9] The conservative columnist John Podhoretz criticized the book in the New York Post, "Thirty pages into it, I wanted to take a shower. Sixty pages into it, I wanted to be decontaminated. And 200 pages into it, I wanted someone to drive stakes through my eyes so I wouldn't have to suffer through another word."[10]

    In the National Review, conservative columnist James Geraghty wrote, “Folks, there are plenty of arguments against Hillary Clinton, her policies, her views, her proposals, and her philosophies. This stuff ain’t it. Nobody on the right, left, or center ought to stoop to this level.”[11]

    Kathryn Jean Lopez
    of National Review asked Klein in a June 20, 2005 interview, "Why on earth would you put such a terrible story in your book...that looks to be flimsily sourced at that?," regarding his suggestion that Chelsea Clinton was conceived in an act of marital rape.[12] Facing criticism from both the left and right for making the claim, Klein eventually backed away from the insinuation in an interview with radio host Jim Bohannon on June 23, 2005.[13]

    The British newspaper The Guardian pointed out a number of verifiable factual errors in Klein's 2014 book Blood Feud.[14]

    Questions of credibility of sources in work

    Klein has also come under fire for his use of anonymous quotes, purported to be from the subjects of his books, which he claims he received from anonymous insiders. The credibility of such quotes has been questioned by writers such as Joe Conason,[15] Salon's Simon Malloy [16] and conservative commentators Rush Limbaugh[17] and Peggy Noonan.[18] "Some of the quotes strike me as odd, in the sense that I don't know people who speak this way," Limbaugh said of Klein's work, describing the sources as "grade school chatter."


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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    Where have I argued that he's not guilty? Link up.
    we are already past your concession that Clinton is guilty........catch up.....go back and read #171......

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    we are already past your concession that Clinton is guilty........catch up.....go back and read #171......
    Sorry dummy. I conceded that Clinton was guilty with Paula Jones and am not sure about Broaddrick. That leaves the rest of these with a question mark.

    Kathleen Willey
    Eileen Wellstone
    Carolyn Moffet
    Elizabeth Ward Gracen
    Becky Brown
    Helen Dowdy
    Cristy Zercher


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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    Sorry dummy. I conceded that Clinton was guilty with Paula Jones and am not sure about Broaddrick. That leaves the rest of these with a question mark.

    Kathleen Willey
    Eileen Wellstone
    Carolyn Moffet
    Elizabeth Ward Gracen
    Becky Brown
    Helen Dowdy
    Cristy Zercher
    I question Kathleen Willey, too, the new women I haven’t read about, no reason to doubt them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    Sorry dummy. I conceded that Clinton was guilty with Paula Jones and am not sure about Broaddrick. That leaves the rest of these with a question mark.

    Kathleen Willey
    Eileen Wellstone
    Carolyn Moffet
    Elizabeth Ward Gracen
    Becky Brown
    Helen Dowdy
    Cristy Zercher
    ????.....what difference does it make now?......we've established the fact he's a perp......

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