christiefan915 (11-18-2017), Phantasmal (11-17-2017), ThatOwlWoman (11-17-2017)
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Rolling Stone magazine thinks it is time to revisit and review President Pussy-Grabbers non-consensual interactions with females.
full story http://www.rollingstone.com/politics...-women-w512099It's Time to Revisit Trump's History With Women
Rollingstone.com
We're in the midst of a unique moment in modern history. Women are speaking up about the mistreatment they've suffered at the hands of powerful men – and people are actually listening. Whether the end result will be a*backlash or a*radical reconfiguration of power dynamics in the workforce is yet to be seen, but there's no denying that something new is happening regarding sexual harassment, assault and abuse.
Remarkably, however, the highest-profile person in the nation, whose treatment of women is notably checkered, has largely escaped this current round of scrutiny. That has to change now. President Trump has to be put under this newly glaring spotlight.
This new round of attention on sexual harassment and abuse started with women – and some men – speaking up about powerful people in the entertainment industry. But, as many people appear to be learning, this problem is not relegated to Hollywood: Stories have also flooded out from the media, restaurant and other industries, with victims who had been afraid or unable to speak up in the past starting to name names at an unprecedented rate.
And then there's politics. Numerous women have come forward to accuse*U.S Senate candidate Roy Moore*of*child molestation and generally creepy behavior toward teenagers. Sen. Al Franken is having to answer for allegedly groping a woman while she was asleep and forcing her to kiss him. Even past presidents are in the crosshairs, with*George H.W. Bush's*alleged pattern of groping women during photo shoots getting extensive coverage and*Bill Clinton's sordid history being dredged up once again.
What's most amazing about all this – particularly for those of us old enough to remember*Anita Hill bringing national attention to sexual harassment*but Clarence Thomas being confirmed to the Supreme Court anyway – is that at least some men are being held accountable right now. Harvey Weinstein has been effectively excommunicated from Hollywood, Louis C.K. has lost numerous projects and has said he's going to*disappear for a while,*Roy Moore is*behind in the polls in deep-red Alabama, Al Franken has*volunteered to face an ethics probe while some of his*colleagues are returning campaign donations from him, and many people are arguing*Bill Clinton should have resigned over the Lewinsky affair.
America taking seriously the abuse of sexual power dynamics is a huge deal. But this moment will be incomplete without a thorough re-visiting of our president's history with women.
Of course Trump's past was a part of the presidential election last year – often a big one. But at the time, his accusers and admissions had to share the spotlight with a flood of other wild campaign-related news. And, for a complicated cocktail of reasons we're sure to be sorting out for years to come, the nation simply was not treating such stories with the level of seriousness it is today.
The truth is that many of the stories reported about powerful men over the past several weeks are similar to what women have been saying about Trump for years – and, in some cases, even what he has said about himself.
As*The New York Times*reported last year, Trump is accused of sexually assaulting a woman on an airplane in the Eighties in a way that recalls Franken's alleged misconduct in 2006:
"About 45 minutes after takeoff, she recalled, Mr. Trump lifted the armrest and began to touch her. According to Ms. Leeds, Mr. Trump grabbed her breasts and tried to put his hand up her skirt. 'He was like an octopus,' she said. 'His hands were everywhere.'"
And like Roy Moore is alleged to have targeted teens, Trump has*freely admitted that he would enter the dressing room at Miss Teen USA beauty pageants, with some contestants as young as 14.*Several contestants have backed this up,*saying they saw Trump in the dressing room looking at them in various states of undress.
Perhaps most famously,*Trump has boasted*about forcing himself on women, as numerous high-profile men who have faced career consequences of late are said to have done; on the infamous 2005 Access Hollywood tape, Trump bragged that his fame allowed him to grab women*"by the pussy."
All told,*at least 16 women have accused Trump of harassment, assault or other abusive sexual behavior. (Trump last year denied all those claims, at one point suggesting some of his accusers were too unattractive for him to have assaulted;*the White House maintains that all of Trump's accusers lied.)
As a country, we didn't listen to those women last year. But in this current environment, people of all stripes are listening. Even*Tucker Carlson,*Jeff Sessions*and*Mitch McConnell are arguing that at least some women can and should be trusted.
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christiefan915 (11-18-2017), Phantasmal (11-17-2017), ThatOwlWoman (11-17-2017)
It was decided by Libs that "disrespectful and disgusting, does not mean criminal", especially prior to holding public office.
Abortion rights dogma can obscure human reason & harden the human heart so much that the same person who feels
empathy for animal suffering can lack compassion for unborn children who experience lethal violence and excruciating
pain in abortion.
Unborn animals are protected in their nesting places, humans are not. To abort something is to end something
which has begun. To abort life is to end it.
First, I never said that, second, since you think first lady of the United States Michelle Obama is a Secret Transvestite, nothing you say can be trusted. You will need to corroborate everything you claim, including links and full context of what people wrote.
Trump Condemns Franken Despite 16 Sexual Misconduct Allegations Against Himself
Trump's Risky, Unearned Sanctimony About Al Franken
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...ranken/546179/
Phantasmal (11-17-2017)
Cypress: "Rolling Stone magazine thinks it is time to revisit and review President Pussy-Grabbers non-consensual interactions with females. "
I agree. The brain-dead idiot would have been better off today leaving off the Yeah-but-Franken tweets and focusing on real Presidential stuff. But given his emotional and mental maturity level hover at best around the fifth grade, guess where he went? "Let's not look at my bigly yuge amazing bestest ever tax reform bill that fucks over everyone but the rich jerks like me that like all my legislative shit has a snowball's chance in hell to pass.... Franken Franken Franken!"
Fascinating how the Con-jobs here are posting multiple threads about Biden. Scared, are they?
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christiefan915 (11-18-2017)
Ah, since you're quoting me (I think) your twisting of what I said means that you are an idiot... esp since you arbitrarily decided to take a single individual's opinion and extrapolate it to millions of other people. Now *that's* how you do idiocy. Well done, well done.
Phantasmal (11-17-2017)
As far as I can tell, virtually every liberal was putting Harvey Weinstein on blast for his demented crap. Everyone thinks Anthony Weiner is a creep.
A lot of Trump-ettes have been fighting tooth and nail to excuse, minimize, or reject the 16 plus women of have accused the Orange Clown of non-consensual and aggressive physical contact. Is it really that hard to find women to have consensual relations with?!
It is almost as if they don't genuinely think sexual assault is an important issue....only seeing it through a lens of hyper partisanship!
christiefan915 (11-18-2017), Phantasmal (11-17-2017), ThatOwlWoman (11-17-2017)
No, actually it makes a lot of sense to me that some of this is not criminal. This can be widely applied and it takes a lot of pressure off how to sort all these guys out. I'm agreeing that I've learned something here. We, the reps, the dems, the media, the talk shows have been lumping alllll this behavior into one single basket. This is a good start at setting up some different baskets to separate different levels or versions of harassment, actual assaults, rapes, etc.
Abortion rights dogma can obscure human reason & harden the human heart so much that the same person who feels
empathy for animal suffering can lack compassion for unborn children who experience lethal violence and excruciating
pain in abortion.
Unborn animals are protected in their nesting places, humans are not. To abort something is to end something
which has begun. To abort life is to end it.
That was my entire point. You misrepresented it with your comment quoting it, to Cypress. #2 comment, above.
Personally, I think that putting a guy who got caught peeing behind a tree in a public park into the sex offender registry is insane. Same with someone who kissed or grabbed someone who didn't want it. Let's call that inappropriate, insist that the person reform or else, maybe offer some conscious-raising and give him/her another chance..... as long as the person who was touched was an adult. Fuck, we voted to give the Gropingfuehrer the biggest chance of all, eh? He's a disgusting pig who sees women as things for his treasure chest, not as people.... but even so as far as I can tell none of his swinish actions have been against children.... even including his disgusting "family" pics with poor Ivanka.
We've always been a nation of Puritans who have a lot of issues with sexual behavior... our own and that of other people.
Cypress (11-17-2017), Phantasmal (11-17-2017)
Abortion rights dogma can obscure human reason & harden the human heart so much that the same person who feels
empathy for animal suffering can lack compassion for unborn children who experience lethal violence and excruciating
pain in abortion.
Unborn animals are protected in their nesting places, humans are not. To abort something is to end something
which has begun. To abort life is to end it.
TOP (11-18-2017)
Your boy is a molester you own it
Trump is such a buffoon. Because of his comments, Access Hollywood has had a great resurgence the past day or so.
It's still amazing that he overcame that to get elected. What a disgusting excuse for a "role model."
Phantasmal (11-18-2017)
It does seem sad that in the context of our party of "family values" if one encounters a conversation about the sex-offending elected official,
we would have to ask, which Republican are you referring to?
"It should be obvious to anyone why conservatives and libertarians should be against Trump. He has no grounding in belief. No core philosophy. No morals. No loyalty. No curiosity. No empathy and no understanding. He demands personal loyalty and not loyalty to the nation. His only core belief is in his own superiority to everyone else. His only want is exercise more and more personal power." smb / purveyor of fact 18/03/18
Phantasmal (11-18-2017)
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