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    Default Clinton on Trump’s Election: “There Are Lots of Questions About Its Legitimacy”

    A year after her defeat by Donald Trump in the 2016 presidential election, Hillary Clinton says “there are lots of questions about its legitimacy” due to Russian interference and widespread voter suppression efforts.

    In an interview with Mother Jones in downtown Manhattan, Clinton said Russian meddling in the election “was one of the major contributors to the outcome.” The Russians used “weaponized false information,” she said, in “a very successful disinformation campaign” that wasn’t just influencing voters—it was determining the outcome.”

    For Clinton and others who question the legitimacy of the election results, particularly due to Russian interference, there’s not an obvious next step. “We don’t have a method for contesting that in our system,” she said. “That’s why I’ve long advocated for an independent commission to get to the bottom of what happened.” On Wednesday, Democrats in Congress introduced articles of impeachment against Trump, but Clinton thinks that’s the wrong approach. “I think we need the investigations to continue,” she said, “and I think that it’s premature.”

    But Clinton stood by a claim she made during a presidential debate last year, that if Trump were elected president, he would be Putin’s “puppet.” Asked if she still felt that way, Clinton said, “I do.”

    “I don’t know how the president of the United States, with all of the concerns about the integrity of our elections, could meet with Putin just recently and basically say, ‘Well, you know, he told me again he didn’t do it,’” she said. “I can’t believe that he’s so naïve. I think that he hopes or expects the rest of us to be naïve, or at least the people who support him to be naïve. But this is a serious cyberattack on America.”

    Clinton admitted that her campaign had “shortcomings” that contributed to her loss, but she said the stakes of Russian meddling were bigger than just the election result. “If we don’t figure out what they did to us and take adequate steps to prevent it, they’re only going to get better,” she said. “This is the first time we’ve ever been attacked by a foreign adversary and then they suffer no real consequences
    http://www.motherjones.com/politics/...ts-legitimacy/

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    Now the Russians "determined" the election- nobody believes that except for her delusional self.

    Nice of her to admit she had "shortcomings" -being a serial liar on her Emails disclosures is definately that

    “This is the first time we’ve ever been attacked by a foreign adversary and then they suffer no real consequences
    Jane you Ignorant Slut:
    sanctions and freezing relations,and cutting US Visas are "real consequences"

    Maybe she can get with McCain and declare we are in a war with Russia.
    those couple of neocons can hug it out

    Oh. and "Trump is not legitimate?" ..on what planet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by signalmankenneth View Post
    Lol

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    She's back to her original excuse, beating the same horse, it's the Russians, Russians, Russians
    Abortion rights dogma can obscure human reason & harden the human heart so much that the same person who feels
    empathy for animal suffering can lack compassion for unborn children who experience lethal violence and excruciating
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    Unborn animals are protected in their nesting places, humans are not. To abort something is to end something
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    Quote Originally Posted by noise View Post
    Now the Russians "determined" the election- nobody believes that except for her delusional self.

    Nice of her to admit she had "shortcomings" -being a serial liar on her Emails disclosures is definately that

    Jane you Ignorant Slut:
    sanctions and freezing relations,and cutting US Visas are "real consequences"

    Maybe she can get with McCain and declare we are in a war with Russia.
    those couple of neocons can hug it out

    Oh. and "Trump is not legitimate?" ..on what planet?
    Abortion rights dogma can obscure human reason & harden the human heart so much that the same person who feels
    empathy for animal suffering can lack compassion for unborn children who experience lethal violence and excruciating
    pain in abortion.

    Unborn animals are protected in their nesting places, humans are not. To abort something is to end something
    which has begun. To abort life is to end it.



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    Quote Originally Posted by noise View Post
    A year after her defeat by Donald Trump in the 2016 presidential election, Hillary Clinton says “there are lots of questions about its legitimacy” due to Russian interference and widespread voter suppression efforts.

    In an interview with Mother Jones in downtown Manhattan, Clinton said Russian meddling in the election “was one of the major contributors to the outcome.” The Russians used “weaponized false information,” she said, in “a very successful disinformation campaign” that wasn’t just influencing voters—it was determining the outcome.”

    For Clinton and others who question the legitimacy of the election results, particularly due to Russian interference, there’s not an obvious next step. “We don’t have a method for contesting that in our system,” she said. “That’s why I’ve long advocated for an independent commission to get to the bottom of what happened.” On Wednesday, Democrats in Congress introduced articles of impeachment against Trump, but Clinton thinks that’s the wrong approach. “I think we need the investigations to continue,” she said, “and I think that it’s premature.”

    But Clinton stood by a claim she made during a presidential debate last year, that if Trump were elected president, he would be Putin’s “puppet.” Asked if she still felt that way, Clinton said, “I do.”

    “I don’t know how the president of the United States, with all of the concerns about the integrity of our elections, could meet with Putin just recently and basically say, ‘Well, you know, he told me again he didn’t do it,’” she said. “I can’t believe that he’s so naïve. I think that he hopes or expects the rest of us to be naïve, or at least the people who support him to be naïve. But this is a serious cyberattack on America.”

    Clinton admitted that her campaign had “shortcomings” that contributed to her loss, but she said the stakes of Russian meddling were bigger than just the election result. “If we don’t figure out what they did to us and take adequate steps to prevent it, they’re only going to get better,” she said. “This is the first time we’ve ever been attacked by a foreign adversary and then they suffer no real consequences
    http://www.motherjones.com/politics/...ts-legitimacy/
    It wasn't that long ago that you and your hero Trump claimed there was no Russian interference in our election - that is was probably all just some overweight computer hacker lounging in his bed.

    So, exactly how many times are you going to change your story, move the goal posts, and back track??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    She's back to her original excuse, beating the same horse, it's the Russians, Russians, Russians
    Exactly why did an authoritarian Russian dictator try to assist noted Reality TV star Donald J. Drumpf in winning the American presidential election?

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    Quote Originally Posted by signalmankenneth View Post
    Hilliary...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Exactly why did an authoritarian Russian dictator try to assist noted Reality TV star Donald J. Drumpf in winning the American presidential election?
    Former U.S. officials who worked on Russia policy with Clinton say that Putin was personally stung by Clinton’s December 2011 condemnation of Russia’s parliamentary elections, and had his anger communicated directly to President Barack Obama.
    With the protesters accusing Putin of having rigged recent elections, the Russian leader pointed an angry finger at Clinton, who had issued a statement sharply critical of the voting results. “She said they were dishonest and unfair,” Putin fumed in public remarks, saying that Clinton gave “a signal” to demonstrators working “with the support of the U.S. State Department” to undermine his power. “We need to safeguard ourselves from this interference in our internal affairs,” Putin declared.


    They say Putin and his advisers are also keenly aware that, even as she executed Obama’s “reset” policy with Russia, Clinton took a harder line toward Moscow than others in the administration.
    And they say Putin sees Clinton as a forceful proponent of “regime change” policies that the Russian leader considers a grave threat to his own survival.
    https://www.politico.com/story/2016/...n-putin-226153


    ^ among other reasons

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    It wasn't that long ago that you and your hero Trump claimed there was no Russian interference in our election - that is was probably all just some overweight computer hacker lounging in his bed.

    So, exactly how many times are you going to change your story, move the goal posts, and back track??
    you COMPLETELY MISS THE POINT that it's CLINTON who is QUESTIONING THE LEGITIMACY of the election

    do you remember anything??

    Hillary Clinton changes her mind: Questioning the election is cool now
    | Sep 18, 2017,
    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/hi...rticle/2634797
    The former secretary of state said Monday that she hasn't ruled out questioning the legitimacy of the 2016 presidential election. The way she sees it, it all depends on the degree to which the Russians interfered in the process.

    This is a long way off from when she argued during the campaign that it was a "direct threat" to U.S. democracy to question the integrity of the election.

    NPR's Terry Gross asked Monday, "[W]ould you completely rule out questioning the legitimacy of this election if we learn that the Russian interference in the election is even deeper than we know now?"

    1.Her official Twitter account said later on Oct. 24, 2016: "Donald Trump refused to say that he'd respect the results of this election. That's a direct threat to our democracy"

    2.That same day, during a stump speech in New Hampshire, Clinton claimed Trump was, "the first person, Republican or Democrat, who refused to say that he would respect the results of this election. Now, that is a direct threat to our democracy."

    3.Later, during a rally at the University of North Carolina at Charlotte, she said, "To say you won't respect the results of the election, that is a direct threat to our democracy."
    "No. I would not," Clinton responded.

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    the rest of the article is about "voter suppression" - whereby massive amounts of black voters in Milwaukee
    could not find their paperwork to vote.

    if you are keeping score at home, that is a 3x tripling down on the Russians did it ( now determinitive)
    as well as the Supreme Court practices voter suppression..

    * Voter suppression info at link if you need to peruse further*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    She's back to her original excuse, beating the same horse, it's the Russians, Russians, Russians
    She must have beaten all those other horses, I mean excuses, to a pulp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Exactly why did an authoritarian Russian dictator try to assist noted Reality TV star Donald J. Drumpf in winning the American presidential election?
    304 - 227. Keep crying. Your bitch lost and continues to show she's a loser by making excuses.

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