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    Quote Originally Posted by blackascoal View Post
    Sorry, but how you vote counts more than just what you do personally, which only counts with the people you can touch.

    Being pro-woman is about supporting women that you never see or touch. Not about how you treat the women in your family.

    Gender equality, reproductive rights, and women's empowerment .. are those issues that you support with your vote?
    San Francisco is more liberal than Atlanta. I have voted for the last four Democratic Mayors of SF including donating money to Gavin Newsom, the only politician I've ever given too. Does that mean I more pro-woman than you on a local level?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Craig234 View Post
    Clinton was given a softened response to his behavior for a variety of reasons. One was people questioning his accusers, another was the different culture then about the behavior, another was partisanship, another was the effectiveness of Hillary in defending him. And yes, I do think had Clinton resigned, it would not have changed the cult-like support of trump by his supporters - who HE said he'd lose none of he he murdered someone.
    I think it was 1987 when Gary Hart dropped out because he was caught having an affair. Clinton got through that in '92 but I think there is no way Trump wins without Clinton surviving all he did. Especially when his opponent was Hillary and he could blunt her attacks by pointing out her husband's behavior (and her involvement in it).

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    Go back to Bill Clinton in the '90's as some high profile Democrats have here recently and see the pass he was given for his behavior. You think if Clinton was kicked out of office Trump would be President today? I don't.

    Political expediency often has consequences.
    I think if Conservatives/Republicans were in ANY WAY consistent in their acceptance of women's statements regarding being sexually assaulted, then Trump wouldn't be in office.

    Sadly, the same hypocritical Republicans who excoriated Clinton for his philandering, gladly give Trump a pass for doing the EXACT same thing.
    What kind of country have we become?

    One in which federal prosecutors can take “evidence” before a “grand jury,”

    and that grand jury can “vote to indict” a former president for 91 alleged “crimes”?

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackascoal View Post
    Sorry, but how you vote counts more than just what you do personally, which only counts with the people you can touch.

    Being pro-woman is about supporting women that you never see or touch. Not about how you treat the women in your family.

    Gender equality, reproductive rights, and women's empowerment .. are those issues that you support with your vote?
    This is why I admire you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TTQ64 View Post
    Yes, exactly!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZappasGuitar View Post
    I think if Conservatives/Republicans were in ANY WAY consistent in their acceptance of women's statements regarding being sexually assaulted, then Trump wouldn't be in office.

    Sadly, the same hypocritical Republicans who excoriated Clinton for his philandering, gladly give Trump a pass for doing the EXACT same thing.
    Spare me Zap. Once again everyone else is a hypocrite but you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    I think it was 1987 when Gary Hart dropped out because he was caught having an affair. Clinton got through that in '92 but I think there is no way Trump wins without Clinton surviving all he did. Especially when his opponent was Hillary and he could blunt her attacks by pointing out her husband's behavior (and her involvement in it).
    Trump cheated on Ivana with Marla Maples and hypocritical Republicans give him a pass.

    They had a problem with Clinton's affair, but NOT Trump's.

    The very definition of hypocrisy.
    What kind of country have we become?

    One in which federal prosecutors can take “evidence” before a “grand jury,”

    and that grand jury can “vote to indict” a former president for 91 alleged “crimes”?

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    Should we admire Weinstein then? I mean he was a scumbag as a person but he voted correctly and gave A LOT of money to the right politicians. So why does his personal behavior matter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZappasGuitar View Post
    Trump cheated on Ivana with Marla Maples and hypocritical Republicans give him a pass.

    They had a problem with Clinton's affair, but NOT Trump's.

    The very definition of hypocrisy.
    It's a big world out there Zap. Try reading things other than rawstory. Even other Democratic writers and you might see it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    Spare me Zap. Once again everyone else is a hypocrite but you.
    I understand.

    Any other answer exposes you as just another generic Republican hypocrite.

    No skin off my nose.
    What kind of country have we become?

    One in which federal prosecutors can take “evidence” before a “grand jury,”

    and that grand jury can “vote to indict” a former president for 91 alleged “crimes”?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    It's a big world out there Zap. Try reading things other than rawstory. Even other Democratic writers and you might see it.
    Did I cite RawStory in the post you quoted?

    No?

    No, it's just another desperate attempt at evasion from a hypocritical Rightie who won't admit I am right.
    What kind of country have we become?

    One in which federal prosecutors can take “evidence” before a “grand jury,”

    and that grand jury can “vote to indict” a former president for 91 alleged “crimes”?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZappasGuitar View Post
    Did I cite RawStory in the post you quoted?

    No?

    No, it's just another desperate attempt at evasion from a hypocritical Rightie who won't admit I am right.
    Everyone's a hypocrite but you Zap. God has blessed you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    Everyone's a hypocrite but you Zap. God has blessed you.
    He is a legend in his own mind

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    I think it was 1987 when Gary Hart dropped out because he was caught having an affair. Clinton got through that in '92 but I think there is no way Trump wins without Clinton surviving all he did. Especially when his opponent was Hillary and he could blunt her attacks by pointing out her husband's behavior (and her involvement in it).
    Can you show me any evidence whatsoever that trump's voters gave a CRAP what he had done wrong, that they would abandon him if Clinton had resigned? His grabbing tape was as bad as the rest of this stuff, and he kept their votes.

    They don't care. They attack the other side and are blind to any wrongs of theirs, short of his decapitating Melania at a rally or something. And even then who knows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jade Dragon View Post
    I'm assuming you mean anti-republicans. Everyone outside of his base has been chatting that, even Ann Coulter tweeted for it. It's not for sexual harassment, it's for the fact that with his know-how, skills, narcissism, and mental state, he isn't fit for managing a Pizza Hut, let alone a country.
    I see today he wasted some time tweeting about Franken. With all the sexual harassment/assault allegations said about him, Trump might be better off focusing on something else. Like tax reform, his bigly new wonderful health insurance plan. That famous wall. All those invisible new jobs.

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