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Like joint efforts to fight terrorism in Syria? Are you that fucking naive that you don't realize that terrorism in Syria is classified as everyone that opposes Assad?Originally Posted by anatta
Deals indeed.
In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.
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US/Philippines are as important as it gets in Asia.
what do I care how Duterte runs his country? Or Putin for that matter.
Once again realpolitik only cares about the relationships
Trump has been making all the right moves in all aspects of foreign policy..see how it plays out
Rune (11-14-2017)
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then why did Obama give weapons to the "rebels" in Syria.
Did Obama willingly give TOW missiles to terrorists? is the FSA a "terrorist organization?"
you got it half right -everyone calls each other a terrorist in Syria
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Probably on advice from counsel.
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There we have it.
anatta doesn't believe in human rights or human dignity. It's all about getting those deals. Deals which ultimately empower and promote bad behavior, and tank America's national security interests.
anatta adores Putin because he has turned Russia into a kleptocracy. He thinks it's cool that Putin is able to subvert the rights and freedoms of Russians. I once asked if he admired Hitler. I never got a response, but out of intellectual consistency, I can't fathom why he wouldn't.
Remember, it was the America First ideology that opposed fighting Hitler. They very same ideology that Trump promotes.
In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.
Rune (11-14-2017)
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link?
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Held up implementing further sanctions against Russia.
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So what deal would Trump get out of Syria? Or the Ukraine? Other than Putin gets to keep what he has taken with Crimea, and gets a total pass in favor of having sanctions lifted.
That is a net win for Putin, and that's why you promote such a deal.
In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.
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http://www.politifact.com/punditfact...ssias-economy/
Effect of the sanctions
The U.S. sanctions against Russia targeted specific individuals, firms and sectors close to Putin. For example, they froze U.S.-held assets that belong to some major Russian companies and banks.
Experts had mixed opinions about the extent of the sanctions’ impact on Russia’s economy compared with other factors, notably falling oil prices.
Declining oil prices worldwide since 2012 are the primary reason for Russia’s economic woes given the country’s dependence on oil revenue and exports, said Susanne Wengle, a University of Notre Dame professor who studies Russia’s political economy.
The Russian government’s revenue is tied to oil prices, so a struggling oil industry significantly affects both the private and public sector, Wengle said. In its long-term budget projections, Russia assumed oil prices above $100 per barrel, but in 2016, prices sometimes dropped below $30.
If the sanctions weren’t in place, "the Russian economy would likely have struggled just as much," she said.
Beyond oil, Russia strained its budget by intervening in Crimea and depleting its reserves during the global financial crisis in 2008-09, said Sarah Wilson Sokhey, a University of Colorado, Boulder, professor who studies Russian politics and its economy.
Although Sokhey doesn’t think the sanctions have had a huge impact on the economy as a whole, she said certain individuals who do international business or who import certain products, especially foods, have taken a hit. For example, Russia banned importing European cheeses as a counter-sanction, so local cheesemakers had to make their own brie instead of getting it from France.
"It’s not a trivial thing," Sokhey said of the sanctions. "The Russian government would like to get rid of them, but it’s not something that is seriously hurting them or leading to widespread discontent."
Mitchell Orenstein, a University of Pennsylvania professor and expert on the political economy in Eastern Europe, said he believes sanctions have significantly impacted the Russian economy by massively limiting foreign investment in Russia. The sanctions exacerbate the oil crisis by limiting Russian access to technology and capital.
"Sanctions are certainly a big part of the economic decline in Russia, which explains why President Putin has made it such a high priority to get rid of sanctions," Orenstein said. "It makes it much less attractive for companies to do business in or with Russia."
The International Monetary Fund has said international sanctions and the oil price drop were "dual shocks" to the Russian economy. The organization estimated that all sanctions against Russia for its activity in Ukraine, as well as Russia’s own counter-sanctions, could reduce inflation-adjusted GDP by up to 1.5 percent.
For a more thorough rundown of economic analyses regarding the impact of sanctions on Russia, see this Feb. 17, 2017, report by the nonpartisan Congressional Research Service.
In an email, Tata told PolitiFact that he did not mean sanctions are the only cause of Russia’s economic problems. Rather, he was making a broader point that Putin is trying to shift eyes away from his country’s economic issues.
"Of course, there are other factors, but Putin despises the West in part because of the sanctions," he said.
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http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/11/politi...ils/index.html
It's been confirmed that the sanction Russians wanted lifted in exchange for dirt on Hillary is the Magnitsky Act.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnitsky_Act
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yawn.. now you're reduce to parsing my responses in a desperate attempt at cherry picking something you can
go after.
Russian democracy is just that - Russia has never been a true democracy. So why bend over backwards to try to make Russia into a full western democracy -with all it's functional institutions, when that's not it's nature?
enough of that crap. It's what led to our meddling in Syria, and why we dismissed the Iraqi Sunni army.
let counties decide how to run their own government..
The rest of your hyper-ventillating about Hitler is pathetic
Rune (11-14-2017)
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you are jumping all over the place.
there is no deal to be had in Syria -we don't have any leverage except to guide the elusive peace talks.
Syria has been a Russian client state for years -it's up to them to lead any post war government.
I've gone over a possible deal for recognizing the Crimean referendum,in return for Putin pulling out of Donbas.
It would help both Russia and the Ukraine.
The bolded is your zero sum thinking that infects the Deep State as well.
you idjits don't want progress in cooling down tensions, and the eastern Uk war. that's warmongering
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LMAO... they claimed to have dirt, they didn't. Instead they wanted to talk about the Magnitsky Act. That is not collusion. Nice try though.
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there wasn't even an attempt at a deal. a meeting is not a deal.
Kissinger: “demonization of Vladimir Putin is not a policy; it is an alibi for the absence of one.”
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Cold War 2.0 Russia hysteria is turning people’s brains into guacamole.
We’ve got to find a way to snap out of the propaganda trance
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Buddha: "trust the person who seeks truth and mistrust the person who claims he has found it "
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Utter nonsense that don't deserve serious debate....
Put blame where it belongs
ATF decided it could not regulate bump stocks during the Obama administration.
It that time," the NRA wrote in a statement. "The NRA believes that devices designed to allow semiautomatic rifles to function like fully-automatic rifles should be subject to additional regulations."
The ATF and Obama admin. ignored the NRA recommendations.
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