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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    No, it isn't minuitia, or inconsequential. You couldn't possibly be more wrong.

    For about 24 hours, Trump was played like a fiddle by Putin - he chose Putin over our own intel community. Seriously - can you imagine your reaction if Hillary did that?

    It's a cause for genuine concern, for anyone who is concerned about national security. This is just like your "sloppy w/ the facts" defense - you turn a blind eye to glaring flaws.
    it is minutia..it's parsing towards no ends but domestic politics. It changed nothing concrete, nothing real.
    it was a domestic news cycle "event"

    No Putin wasn't playing him like a fiddle because of a transposed word or something.

    Get your mind off partisan politics and learn the real dynamics between the countries and the leaders-
    not some hyper-ventillated transitory bullshit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    Anyone who cares about national security.

    Seriously - you should not vote.
    idiotic..it lasted less then 24 hours..it's not even a blip,and it changed nothing
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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    it is minutia..it's parsing towards no ends but domestic politics. It changed nothing concrete, nothing real.
    it was a domestic news cycle "event"

    No Putin wasn't playing him like a fiddle because of a transposed word or something.

    Get your mind off partisan politics and learn the real dynamics between the countries and the leaders-
    not some hyper-ventillated transitory bullshit
    Thingy is not going to do that, he has no interest in reading anything, he sits back in his high chair and watches CNN while his Mom feeds him Gerber, and gets all of his partisan talking points.
    You have to look no further than this forum to realize this ding-bat has the brain of an ant
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    And Trump is an subservient observer of the world's players, not an active participant in shaping world events (other than to bolster human rights abuses and giving players like Putin the go-ahead).
    he's leading on a few measures already talked about in Asia. It was a very successful trip by all accounts.

    He's certainly not "shaping events" like Libya or Iraq -agreed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    Anyone who cares about national security.

    Seriously - you should not vote.
    It should be noted for the record the anatta wants the Obama-era sanctions lifted on Russia, despite Russia doubling down on their bad behavior. Because realpolitk.

    anatta cares nothing for Trump, and has only jumped on the band-wagon for Russian-related interests. I don't know why a supposed-American-citizen has turned utter traitor, but that's the case for anatta. No hyperbole or exaggeration of anatta's positions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Getin the ring View Post
    Thingy is not going to do that, he has no interest in reading anything, he sits back in his high chair and watches CNN while his Mom feeds him Gerber, and gets all of his partisan talking points.
    You have to look no further than this forum to realize this ding-bat has the brain of an ant
    You continually say nothing. I wouldn't even call your insults childish - they're not at that level.

    You don't have the brain power to actually refute or argue anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Romney was correct, Obama was wrong. And a metric fuckton of events happened AFTER Obama made that miscalculation. Which makes Trump and his verbal fellatio and adoration of Putin... what?

    You have to follow your own logic to its own conclusion. Why are you afraid to do so?
    The point is that you stated Trump is the worst, when in reality it is Obama that is. I don't think Trump is doing a good job. But to say he is the weakest after less than a year in office after 8 years of the Obama fiasco??? Yeah... that is absurd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Massive, crippling sanctions. That have brought Russia to its economic knees. Putin is GASPING for relief.

    What has Trump done?
    LMAO... no, low oil prices are what is killing Russia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    In order for that statement to make sense, Trump would have to be fucking stupid. Trump believes PUTIN BELIEVES that Russia had nothing to do with it? How the fuck would that work?
    Trump is pretty stupid. That said, do you believe there was collusion? After all this time, no evidence of such. If anything, we see collusion by Fusion GPS on behalf of the DNC and Clinton.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    And CHINA is empowered through and by Trump's weakness. Everyone is turning towards China. America is becoming irrelevant, thanks to Trump.
    Wrong again. China was empowered by the weakness of Obama, so was Russia, so was N. Korea, so was Syria, so was ISIS etc...

    While Trump certainly isn't helping with his non-stop twitter nonsense, this is hardly something he brought on in ten months in office.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    he's leading on a few measures already talked about in Asia.
    LOL. They are walking all over Trump. It's pathetic. No one takes Trump seriously as a leader. He's the biggest gift to China and Russia. If Trump could lift the sanctions on Russia by himself, he'd do so tomorrow. It remains to be seen if he'll implement that sanctions that are beyond his power prevent -- since he's been delaying them for months. He wants to be buddy-buddy with Duterte. But hey, at least he's tough on Obama and Hillary, and America's intelligence community.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    It should be noted for the record the anatta wants the Obama-era sanctions lifted on Russia, despite Russia doubling down on their bad behavior. Because realpolitk.

    anatta cares nothing for Trump, and has only jumped on the band-wagon for Russian-related interests. I don't know why a supposed-American-citizen has turned utter traitor, but that's the case for anatta. No hyperbole or exaggeration of anatta's positions.
    lifting sanctions IN RETURN for deals with Putin..
    not just lifting them since we went down this road already -might as well get something for that.

    anatta cares nothing for Trump, and has only jumped on the band-wagon for Russian-related interests. I don't know why a supposed-American-citizen has turned utter traitor, but that's the case for anatta. No hyperbole or exaggeration of anatta's positions
    blah blah blah

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    What is Trump doing to bring pressure on China and Russia? Other than nothing.
    Holy fuck, it wasn't that long ago you were calling him a madman who would start WW3 ffs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfreak View Post
    LMAO... no, low oil prices are what is killing Russia.
    Putin's offer of collusion to Trump -- which has been confirmed and established in writing -- was offered specifically to lift the sanctions that were affecting Putin and the oligarchs of Russia.
    In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corazón View Post
    Holy fuck, it wasn't that long ago you were calling him a madman who would start WW3 ffs.
    When did I say that, and what does that have to do with the statement of mine you quoted? Trump is weak on North Korea. Bannon was right.
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