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    Quote Originally Posted by blackascoal View Post
    I disagree.

    Case in point .. As a black parent, is it your responsibility to teach your children about the inevitable racism they will encounter in their lives?

    Is it the responsibility of black parents to teach their children about the dangers of encountering white police officers?

    I have several differences and problems with the author, and I've stated some in this thread .. but I don't believe him to be a racist.
    The above is not what this guy was doing. Discussing racism and the fact that they will likely encounter it during their lives is one thing. Saying 'you can't trust any white people' is another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfreak View Post
    The above is not what this guy was doing. Discussing racism and the fact that they will likely encounter it during their lives is one thing. Saying 'you can't trust any white people' is another.
    Well you can't. History has proven this.

    White people don't like hearing the truth. Trust is earned not just given because your white.

    Having to have the conversation about racism and racist because of the likely fact they will encounter it, just proves you can't just trust whites.............otherwise we wouldn't have to have the conversation about racism.

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    he did not say you cant trust any white people


    he said you can nt trust them automatically


    WHY??????

    Because racists will pretend they are not racists


    its what you racists shits do

    You cling to all the fucking stupid in nyour brains but claim its not racist and you are not racist.

    Black people need to know you awhile before they can tell if you are a faker like most of the right is.



    You treat a black person like they are a person who deserve respect and they will respond


    they will take time to see if you are for real.


    sorry

    that is reality.

    treat them like shit and they will know you right off

    treat them decently and it will take some time to get into their heart


    that is your choice as a white person trying to befriend a black person.


    guess what racists say about that LIFE FACT?


    that its not worth it

    that way they never help end racism because it takes too much effort.


    your unwillingness to help change the reality that exsists proves your racism.


    It is worth it assholes


    IF you dont think it is you are a racist

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    he did not say you cant trust any white people


    he said you can nt trust them automatically


    WHY??????

    Because racists will pretend they are not racists


    its what you racists shits do

    You cling to all the fucking stupid in nyour brains but claim its not racist and you are not racist.

    Black people need to know you awhile before they can tell if you are a faker like most of the right is.



    You treat a black person like they are a person who deserve respect and they will respond


    they will take time to see if you are for real.


    sorry

    that is reality.

    treat them like shit and they will know you right off

    treat them decently and it will take some time to get into their heart


    that is your choice as a white person trying to befriend a black person.


    guess what racists say about that LIFE FACT?


    that its not worth it

    that way they never help end racism because it takes too much effort.


    your unwillingness to help change the reality that exsists proves your racism.


    It is worth it assholes


    IF you dont think it is you are a racist
    Exactly!

    Whites need to start checking white people instead of trying to claim Blacks are the racist ones.

    There are some whites in this thread who think the author of this article is racist just like the original poster wants them too.

    Instead they should be looking at why 75% of whites don't have Black friends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TTQ64 View Post
    Exactly!

    Whites need to start checking white people instead of trying to claim Blacks are the racist ones.

    There are some whites in this thread who think the author of this article is racist just like the original poster wants them too.

    Instead they should be looking at why 75% of whites don't have Black friends.

    I found NOT ONE WORD of what the man said to be offensive


    you have to WANT to hate him to NOT SEE what he was talking about



    too many white people I know harbor racist sympathies that they have non honestly self examined.


    I have seen and experienced the emotional disconnect of white people who I have spoken to this about


    I get alot of "its not their DNA its the culture" from many white people on what they see as reverse racism.


    they dont get that when you walk the earth with that idea in yur mind you TREAT the people of color you meet differently than you do other whites.


    I have seen the faces of white people with OBVIUOS SNARLS on their faces and shitty attitude and body language when they walk in somewhere were their are people of color ( because Im in So Cal I see it more towards latinos than blacks).


    they seem to think humams cant pick that shit up.

    they then walk out and say some crap about how they were treated when they didnt SAY something out right racist.


    People read unspoken language too idiots.


    they read your racism right off your face


    remove that shit from your attitude and try it.


    imagine you are looking at someone you respect if you cant at first pull of actually respecting that person for real.


    Treat every NEW human you meet as if they Had already treated you with gresat kindness.


    I have done this all my life

    Its come for me naturally.

    I look into a new face and reach out as if this is the first time Im meeting my new BEST FRIEND.


    you will never have many best friends if you dont treat the world like that.


    each new human you meet may IN FACT be your new best friend.

    But not if your an attitude filled dick head huh


    then they are sure to say when you walk out of the room

    "what a dick"

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    Can My Children Be Friends With White People?

    By*EKOW*N.*YANKAH
    November 11, 2017

    My oldest son, wrestling with a 4-year-old’s happy struggles, is trying to clarify how many people can be his best friend. “My best friends are you and Mama and my brother and …” But even a child’s joy is not immune to this ominous political period. This summer’s images of violence in Charlottesville, Va., prompted an array of questions. “Some people hate others because they are different,” I offer, lamely. A childish but distinct panic enters his voice. “But I’m not different.”

    It is impossible to convey the mixture of heartbreak and fear I feel for him. Donald Trump’s election has made it clear that I will teach my boys the lesson generations old, one that I for the most part nearly escaped. I will teach them to be cautious, I will teach them suspicion, and I will teach them distrust. Much sooner than I thought I would, I will have to discuss with my boys whether they can truly be friends with white people.

    Meaningful friendship is not just a feeling. It is not simply being able to share a beer. Real friendship is impossible without the ability to trust others, without knowing that your well-being is important to them. The desire to create, maintain or wield power over others destroys the possibility of friendship. The Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.’s famous dream of black and white children holding hands was a dream precisely because he realized that in Alabama, conditions of dominance made real friendship between white and black people impossible.

    History has provided little reason for people of color to trust white people in this way, and these recent months have put in the starkest relief the contempt with which the country measures the value of racial minorities. America is transfixed on the opioid epidemic among white Americans (who often get hooked after being overprescribed painkillers — while studies show that doctors underprescribe pain medication for African-Americans). But when black lives were struck by addiction, we cordoned off minority communities with the police and threw away an entire generation of black and Hispanic men.

    Likewise, despite centuries of exclusion and robust evidence of continuing racism, minority underemployment is often couched in the language of bad choices and personal responsibility. When systemic joblessness strikes swaths of white America, we get an entire presidential campaign centered on globalization’s impact on the white working class. Even the nerve of some rich or visible African-Americans to protest that America, in its laws and in its police, has rarely been just to all has been met with the howls of a president who cannot tolerate that the lucky and the uppity do not stay in their place.

    As against our gauzy national hopes, I will teach my boys to have profound doubts that friendship with white people is possible. When they ask, I will teach my sons that their beautiful hue is a fault line. Spare me platitudes of how we are all the same on the inside. I first have to keep my boys safe, and so I will teach them before the world shows them this particular brand of rending, violent, often fatal betrayal.

    Let me assure you that my heartbreak dwarfs my anger. I grew up in a classic Midwestern college town. With all its American faults, it was a diverse and happy-childhood kind of place, slightly dull in the way that parents wish for their children. If race showed in class lines, school cliques and being pulled over more often, our little Americana lacked the deep racial tension and mistrust that seem so hard to escape now.

    What’s surprising is that I am heartbroken at all. It is only for African-Americans who grew up in such a place that watching Mr. Trump is so disorienting. For many weary minorities, the ridiculous thing was thinking friendship was possible in the first place. It hurts only if you believed friendship could bridge the racial gorge.

    Of course, the rise of this president has broken bonds on all sides. But for people of color the stakes are different. Imagining we can now be friends across this political line is asking us to ignore our safety and that of our children, to abandon personal regard and self-worth. Only white people can cordon off Mr. Trump’s political meaning, ignore the “unpleasantness” from a position of safety. His election and the year that has followed have fixed the awful thought in my mind too familiar to black Americans: “You can’t trust these people.”

    It is not Mr. Trump himself who has done this. Were it not for our reverence for money, Mr. Trump would be easily recognized as the simple-minded, vulgar, bigoted blowhard he is. It is certainly not the neo-Nazis marching on Charlottesville; we have seen their type before. Rather, what has truly broken my heart are the ranks of Mr. Trump’s many allies and apologists.

    Mr. Trump’s supporters are practiced at purposeful blindness. That his political life started with denying, without evidence, that Barack Obama is American — that this black man could truly be the legitimate president — is simply ignored. So, too, is his history of housing discrimination, his casual conflation of Muslims with terrorists, his reducing Mexican-Americans to murderers and rapists. All along, his allies have watched racial pornography, describing black America as pathological. Yet they deny that there is any malice whatsoever in his words and actions. And they dismiss any attempt to recognize the danger of his wide-ranging animus as political correctness.

    But the deepest rift is with the apologists, the “good” Trump voters, the white people who understand that Mr. Trump says “unfortunate” things but support him because they like what he says on jobs and taxes. They bristle at the accusation that they supported racism, insisting they had to ignore Mr. Trump’s ugliness. Relying on everyday decency as a shield, they are befuddled at the chill that now separates them from black people in their offices and social circles. They protest: Have they ever said anything racist? Don’t they shovel the sidewalk of the new black neighbors? Surely, they say, politics — a single vote — does not mean we can’t be friends.

    I do not write this with liberal condescension or glee. My heart is unbearably heavy when I assure you we cannot be friends.

    The same is true, unfortunately, of those who hold no quarter for Mr. Trump but insist that black people need to do the reaching out, the moderating, the accommodating. Imagine the white friend during the civil rights era who disliked blacks’ being beaten to death but wished the whole thing would just settle down. However likable, you could not properly describe her as a friend. Sometimes politics makes demands on the soul.

    Don’t misunderstand: White Trump supporters and people of color can like one another. But real friendship? Mr. Trump’s bruised ego invents outrageous claims of voter fraud, not caring that this rhetoric was built upon dogs and water hoses set on black children and even today the relentless effort to silence black voices. His macho talk about “law and order” does not keep communities safe and threatens the very bodies of the little boys I love. No amount of shoveled snow makes it all right, and too many imagine they can have it both ways. It is this desperation to reap the rewards of white power without being so much as indicted that James Baldwin recognized as America’s criminal innocence.

    For African-Americans, race has become a proxy not just for politics but also for decency. White faces are swept together, ominous anxiety behind every chance encounter at the airport or smiling white cashier. If they are not clearly allies, they will seem unsafe to me.

    Barack Obama’s farewell address encouraged us to reach across partisan lines. But there is a difference between disagreeing over taxes and negotiating one’s place in America, the bodies of your children, your humanity. Our racial wound has undone love and families, and ignoring the depths of the gash will not cause it to heal.

    We can still all pretend we are friends. If meaningful civic friendship is impossible, we can make do with mere civility — sharing drinks and watching the game. Indeed, even in Donald Trump’s America, I have not given up on being friends with all white people. My bi-ethnic wife, my most trusted friend, understands she is seen as a white woman, even though her brother and father are not. Among my dearest friends, the wedding party and children’s godparents variety, many are white. But these are the friends who have marched in protest, rushed to airports to protest the president’s travel ban, people who have shared the risks required by strength and decency.

    There is hope, though. Implicitly, without meaning to, Mr. Trump asks us if this is the best we can do. It falls to us to do better. We cannot agree on our politics, but we can declare that we stand beside one another against cheap attack and devaluation; that we live together and not simply beside one another. In the coming years, when my boys ask again their questions about who can be their best friend, I pray for a more hopeful answer.


    https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/11/1...1en0a3ei?amp=1




    how sad that some people cant understand what this person is saying
    No, what's sad is that there are actually people that stupid in this world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    As against our gauzy national hopes, I will teach my boys to have profound doubts that friendship with white people is possible. When they ask, I will teach my sons that their beautiful hue is a fault line. Spare me platitudes of how we are all the same on the inside. I first have to keep my boys safe, and so I will teach them before the world shows them this particular brand of rending, violent, often fatal betrayal.
    Great, thanks for being a part of the problem and perpetuating racism. Great job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    I found NOT ONE WORD of what the man said to be offensive


    you have to WANT to hate him to NOT SEE what he was talking about



    too many white people I know harbor racist sympathies that they have non honestly self examined.


    I have seen and experienced the emotional disconnect of white people who I have spoken to this about


    I get alot of "its not their DNA its the culture" from many white people on what they see as reverse racism.


    they dont get that when you walk the earth with that idea in yur mind you TREAT the people of color you meet differently than you do other whites.


    I have seen the faces of white people with OBVIUOS SNARLS on their faces and shitty attitude and body language when they walk in somewhere were their are people of color ( because Im in So Cal I see it more towards latinos than blacks).


    they seem to think humams cant pick that shit up.

    they then walk out and say some crap about how they were treated when they didnt SAY something out right racist.


    People read unspoken language too idiots.


    they read your racism right off your face


    remove that shit from your attitude and try it.


    imagine you are looking at someone you respect if you cant at first pull of actually respecting that person for real.


    Treat every NEW human you meet as if they Had already treated you with gresat kindness.


    I have done this all my life

    Its come for me naturally.

    I look into a new face and reach out as if this is the first time Im meeting my new BEST FRIEND.


    you will never have many best friends if you dont treat the world like that.


    each new human you meet may IN FACT be your new best friend.

    But not if your an attitude filled dick head huh


    then they are sure to say when you walk out of the room

    "what a dick"
    "its not their DNA its the culture"

    A lot of whites, racist or not, believe that the Black culture is bad. They think that because all they see on the nightly news is Black crime. The racist right has been spewing negativity about Black culture for decades and people believe them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TTQ64 View Post
    "its not their DNA its the culture"

    A lot of whites, racist or not, believe that the Black culture is bad.
    because they are racists trying to claim they are not racists.

    its a cop out

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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Great, thanks for being a part of the problem and perpetuating racism. Great job.
    yes you are a racist to think that is racism


    how much more of the mans words did you read idiot

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    what do you mean?
    Is English a second language for you? I mean, it's hard to believe there are people stupid enough to write that senseless drivel you posted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    yes you are a racist to think that is racism


    how much more of the mans words did you read idiot
    Teaching your kids not to have friendships with white people, or even that they need to be cautious about it, is textbook racism. You are the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    because they are racists trying to claim they are not racists.

    its a cop out
    How many studies over the years have proven white people clutch their purses or change the direction they were walking when they see a Black man coming? They make laws that hurt Blacks and minorities, but we're the racist?

    They don't automatically trust Blacks why should we automatically trust whites?

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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Teaching your kids not to have friendships with white people, or even that they need to be cautious about it, is textbook racism. You are the problem.
    STFU we don't take advice from racist.

    When you mofo stop being racist we won't need to teach our kids to be cautious of you. Until then, we tell them to proceed with cautious and don't trust them until proven otherwise, especially stay away from racist white men.......you all are the worst.

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