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    Since none with Hillary, the answer is easy. Trump has been dealing with the Russians for decades. Jr said they have Russian financing. https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017...nt-golf-course That was an easy question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salty9373 View Post
    Everyone appears to agree that Russia interfered in our elections but no one can quantify the effect.
    This guy doesn't agree there was Russian interference:

    Trump: Claims of Russian interference in 2016 race "ridiculous"
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016...g-excuses.html


    Otoh, looks like the Secretary of State didn't get the memo:

    "The United States today has a poor relationship with a resurgent Russia that has invaded its neighbors Georgia and Ukraine in the last decade and undermined the sovereignty of Western nations by meddling in our election and others’."
    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/27/o...macy.html?_r=1

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    The Secret Correspondence Between Donald Trump Jr. and WikiLeaks

    The transparency organization asked the president’s son for his cooperation—in sharing its work, in contesting the results of the election, and in arranging for Julian Assange to be Australia’s ambassador to the United States.


    Peter Nicholls / Reuters

    JULIA IOFFE NOV 13, 2017

    The messages, obtained by The Atlantic, were also turned over by Trump Jr.’s lawyers to congressional investigators. They are part of a long—and largely one-sided—correspondence between WikiLeaks and the president’s son that continued until at least July 2017. The messages show WikiLeaks, a radical transparency organization that the American intelligence community believes was chosen by the Russian government to disseminate the information it had hacked, actively soliciting Trump Jr.’s cooperation. WikiLeaks made a series of increasingly bold requests, including asking for Trump’s tax returns, urging the Trump campaign on Election Day to reject the results of the election as rigged, and requesting that the president-elect tell Australia to appoint Julian Assange ambassador to the United States.
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    WikiLeaks played a pivotal role in the presidential campaign. In July 2016, on the first day of the Democratic National Convention, WikiLeaks released emails stolen from the Democratic National Committee's servers that spring. The emails showed DNC officials denigrating Bernie Sanders, renewing tensions on the eve of Clinton’s acceptance of the nomination. On October 7, less than an hour after the Washington Post released the Access Hollywood tape, in which Trump bragged about sexually assaulting women, Wikileaks released emails that hackers had pilfered from the personal email account of Clinton’s campaign manager John Podesta.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...ileaks/545738/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salty9373 View Post
    Russia investigations total 5 including Mueller. After 10 mo we learn there is no evidence of collusion by anyone. The Media loves it because they always have something to write about. Politicians love it because it gets them face time on TV as they promote them selves. Everyone appears to agree that Russia interfered in our elections but no one can quantify the effect. For a crime to be committed, assets need to have changed hands. Manafort looks guilty of money laundering but it has nothing to do with Russian interference. Flynn did a deal with Turkey. Again not Russia. Clinton ended up with millions in the Fund as well as 500k for Bubba's speech but the uranium one connections will never be proven. GPS could have been paid by FBI which reeks of an illegal political scandal.
    Personally, I think the subject is getting redundant and boring unless someone is indicted, tried and broadcast on TV.
    You learned that Repubs will cover up to keep Trump in power. Repub investigations are still after Hillary, who I seem to remember did not win the election and is not in power. Repubs use deflection to try and save the Thief in Chief. The investigation is in its midpoint. TRump said about 6 months ago that he would be happy to be interrogated by Mueller. Today, he changed his mind.. He has been told they are getting down to him for collusion and obstruction. So he will hide instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jc456 View Post
    How about why would the Russians not back hitlery when she got them the Uranium One deal. I mean is doesn't follow logic. none especially when they paid her hubby 500K for a speech. and gave her foundation 95 million.
    Hillary did not get them uranium. It was a Canadian company that dug in America, The uranium never left the US. Hillary did not sign on to it. It required 9 signatures from 9 different agencies. http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...ton-and-urani/ Turn off Fox.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jc456 View Post
    How about why would the Russians not back hitlery when she got them the Uranium One deal. I mean is doesn't follow logic. none especially when they paid her hubby 500K for a speech. and gave her foundation 95 million.
    Debunked claim on Uranium One.

    Move on

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evmetro View Post
    I regard to evidence of collusion with the Russians, is there more evidence of this against Trump, or against Hillary?
    In regards to Russian collusion. It is Trump without a doubt. Donny Jr, said they were getting piles of money from Russia. https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017...nt-golf-course

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    In regards to Russian collusion. It is Trump without a doubt. Donny Jr, said they were getting piles of money from Russia. https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017...nt-golf-course
    So now the Russians were supposedly paying a private citizen for the privilege of screwing with a public election. Hilarious.

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    After a bunch of bankruptcies, Trump was not getting money from American banks to build golf courses. Golf was also on a down slope after the Bush crash. Wilbur Ross, a cabinet head forTrump was running the bank of Cyprus. It had Putin on its board. It was reputed to be a money laundering center for Russian plutocrats. One of them bought a multi million dollar mansion from Trump that he could not sell He paid about 3 times its market value, He never lived in it. Trump and parts of his cabinet, and his family ,appear to be ass deep in Russian money laundering. The many, many communications are also well known.

    The Russians set up a huge operation to interfere in our election , on Trumps side. They are also interfering in European elections. They are anti democracies. So is Trump.

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    Fake news.

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    Democrats are okay with Hillary giving 20% of our uranium to Russia.

    They want the Trump family sent to prison because some of the Trump kids met with a Russian official when they thought the meeting was about adopting Russian children.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hvilleherb View Post
    Democrats are okay with Hillary giving 20% of our uranium to Russia.

    They want the Trump family sent to prison because some of the Trump kids met with a Russian official when they thought the meeting was about adopting Russian children.
    Two corrections on your dumbfuck post.

    Hillary did not give away any uranium.

    Donny thought the meeting was about dirt on Clinton.

    Pull your head out of your ass, dumbshit.

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    Russian had financial deals with Trump for a long time. That is hilarious, because his followers turn their backs to it. What will it take? Truth is nothing will move Trumpettes. Every day ,another clown move from Trump. Today his shithole remark. That is a president, representing the country?. He is a shame and shames us all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hvilleherb View Post
    Democrats are okay with Hillary giving 20% of our uranium to Russia.

    They want the Trump family sent to prison because some of the Trump kids met with a Russian official when they thought the meeting was about adopting Russian children.
    I can see why you voted for Trump. Low information voter, who looks up nothing.If Fox says it, it must be right.

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