DEMOCRATS are scum to politicize the death of a man they cared nothing about

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I PREDICT DEMOCRATS WILL NOT WATCH THIS - BECAUSE THEY ARE SCUM

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Trump politicized it from the very beginning, and brought Kelly into it. Kelly is in a mess of his own making, and 90% of what Kelly complained about is the product of Trump and Trump alone.

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It is noted that the Trump side of the argument has called a black woman a prostitute, even though that woman is 100% correct in her depiction of Trump's remarks. And Kelly backs her up, so does the Gold Star parent. It is further noted by disrespecting women (for being correct), the Trump supporter clearly wasn't listening to Kelly.

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Natasha De Alencar had just returned home after making T-shirts and pillowcases in her husband’s memory when the casualty assistance officer told her there was someone on the phone for her.

It was President Trump.

Days before, two men told her that her husband, Staff Sgt. Mark R. De Alencar, had been killed.

He left behind five children — Deshaune, 20, Octavia, 18, *Rodrigo, 16, Tatiyana, 13, and Marcos, 5 — and his wife of 15 years.

De Alencar had to figure out funeral plans, navigate endless paperwork and provide emotional support for her family.

And now she was about to speak to the president.

Surrounded by her children in the living room, De Alencar picked up the phone and turned on the speakerphone.

Trump’s voice echoed out of the phone’s tiny speaker, while one of De Alencar’s daughters filmed the conversation.

Trump opened by saying how sorry he is about the “whole situation,” before adding that De Alencar’s husband was “an unbelievable hero.”

“At that moment when my world was upside down and me and my kids didn’t know which way we were going, it felt like I was talking to just another regular human,” De Alencar said.

Trump invited De Alencar to the White House, telling her, “If you’re around Washington, you come over and see me in the Oval Office,” before asking about her oldest son, Deshaun, who is playing college football at Missouri Valley College in Marshall, Mo.

The conversation then shifted to De Alencar’s four other children. Trump asked her to say hello to them for him and to “tell them their father was a great hero that I respected.”

The phone call ended with Trump repeating his invitation to the White House and advising De Alencar to take care of herself.

“It was a moment of niceness that we needed because we were going through hell,” De Alencar said.

The White House did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

De Alencar's is one of the Gold Star families contacted by The Washington Post as part of a larger story about Trump’s relationships with Gold Star families.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2017/10/19/listen-soldiers-widow-shares-her-call-with-trump/?utm_term=.758832d142fc

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It is noted that the Trump side of the argument has called a black woman a prostitute, even though that woman is 100% correct in her depiction of Trump's remarks. And Kelly backs her up, so does the Gold Star parent. It is further noted by disrespecting women (for being correct), the Trump supporter clearly wasn't listening to Kelly.

So, you didn't hear what Kelly said about her?

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So, you didn't hear what Kelly said about her?

Did you suppose he would?

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It is noted that the Trump side of the argument has called a black woman a prostitute, even though that woman is 100% correct in her depiction of Trump's remarks. And Kelly backs her up, so does the Gold Star parent. It is further noted by disrespecting women (for being correct), the Trump supporter clearly wasn't listening to Kelly.

Full Transcript and Video: Kelly Defends Trump’s Handling of Soldier’s Death and Call to Widow

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/19/u...pgtype=article

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Full Transcript and Video: Kelly Defends Trump’s Handling of Soldier’s Death and Call to Widow

He defended it, but backed up what the congress woman said was said. The gold star parent also confirms it. Kelly is doing his job as elephant-dung cleaner.

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So, you didn't hear what Kelly said about her?

He attacked the congress woman, while backing her up, then slamming 'everyone' for the state of politics and society (even though 90% of what he said was basically represented within Trump). Disrespect for women (Trump), disrespect for gold star parents (Trump), disrespect for the sanctity of life (Trump talked about murdering women and children during the election).

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He defended it, but backed up what the congress woman said was said.

Liar.

JOHN F. KELLY, White House chief of staff: Well, thanks a lot. And it is a more serious note, so I just wanted to perhaps make more of a statement than an — give more of an explanation in what amounts to be a traditional press interaction.

Most Americans don’t know what happens when we lose one of soldiers, sailors, airmen, Marines, our Coast Guardsmen in combat. So let me tell you what happens:

Their buddies wrap them up in whatever passes as a shroud, puts them on a helicopter as a routine, and sends them home. Their first stop along the way is when they’re packed in ice, typically at the airhead. And then they’re flown to, usually, Europe where they’re then packed in ice again and flown to Dover Air Force Base, where Dover takes care of the remains, embalms them, meticulously dresses them in their uniform with the medals that they’ve earned, the emblems of their service, and then puts them on another airplane linked up with a casualty officer escort that takes them home.

A very, very good movie to watch, if you haven’t ever seen it, is “Taking Chance,” where this is done in a movie — HBO setting. Chance Phelps was killed under my command right next to me, and it’s worth seeing that if you’ve never seen it.

So that’s the process. While that’s happening, a casualty officer typically goes to the home very early in the morning and waits for the first lights to come on. And then he knocks on the door; typically a mom and dad will answer, a wife. And if there is a wife, this is happening in two different places; if the parents are divorced, three different places. And the casualty officer proceeds to break the heart of a family member and stays with that family until — well, for a long, long time, even after the internment. So that’s what happens.

Who are these young men and women? They are the best 1 percent this country produces. Most of you, as Americans, don’t know them. Many of you don’t know anyone who knows any one of them. But they are the very best this country produces, and they volunteer to protect our country when there’s nothing in our country anymore that seems to suggest that selfless service to the nation is not only appropriate, but required. But that’s all right.

Who writes letters to the families? Typically, the company commander — in my case, as a Marine — the company commander, battalion commander, regimental commander, division commander, Secretary of Defense, typically the service chief, commandant of the Marine Corps, and the President typically writes a letter.

Typically, the only phone calls a family receives are the most important phone calls they could imagine, and that is from their buddies. In my case, hours after my son was killed, his friends were calling us from Afghanistan, telling us what a great guy he was. Those are the only phone calls that really mattered.

And yeah, the letters count, to a degree, but there’s not much that really can take the edge off what a family member is going through.

So some Presidents have elected to call. All Presidents, I believe, have elected to send letters. If you elect to call a family like this, it is about the most difficult thing you could imagine. There’s no perfect way to make that phone call.

When I took this job and talked to President Trump about how to do it, my first recommendation was he not do it because it’s not the phone call that parents, family members are looking forward to. It’s nice to do, in my opinion, in any event.

He asked me about previous Presidents, and I said, I can tell you that President Obama, who was my Commander-in-Chief when I was on active duty, did not call my family. That was not a criticism. That was just to simply say, I don’t believe President Obama called. That’s not a negative thing. I don’t believe President Bush called in all cases. I don’t believe any President, particularly when the casualty rates are very, very high — that Presidents call. But I believe they all write.

So when I gave that explanation to our President three days ago, he elected to make phone calls in the cases of four young men who we lost in Niger at the earlier part of this month. But then he said, how do you make these calls? If you’re not in the family, if you’ve never worn the uniform, if you’ve never been in combat, you can’t even imagine how to make that call. I think he very bravely does make those calls.

The call in question that he made yesterday — or day before yesterday now — were to four family members, the four fallen. And remember, there’s a next-of-kin designated by the individual. If he’s married, that’s typically the spouse. If he’s not married, that’s typically the parents unless the parents are divorced, and then he selects one of them. If he didn’t get along with his parents, he’ll select a sibling. But the point is, the phone call is made to the next-of-kin only if the next-of-kin agrees to take the phone call. Sometimes they don’t.

So a pre-call is made: The President of the United States or the commandant of the Marine Corps, or someone would like to call, will you accept the call? And typically, they all accept the call.

So he called four people the other day and expressed his condolences in the best way that he could. And he said to me, what do I say? I said to him, sir, there’s nothing you can do to lighten the burden on these families.

Well, let me tell you what I told him. Let me tell you what my best friend, Joe Dunford, told me — because he was my casualty officer. He said, Kel, he was doing exactly what he wanted to do when he was killed. He knew what he was getting into by joining that 1 percent. He knew what the possibilities were because we’re at war. And when he died, in the four cases we’re talking about, Niger, and my son’s case in Afghanistan — when he died, he was surrounded by the best men on this Earth: his friends.

That’s what the President tried to say to four families the other day. I was stunned when I came to work yesterday morning, and brokenhearted at what I saw a member of Congress doing. A member of Congress who listened in on a phone call from the President of the United States to a young wife, and in his way tried to express that opinion — that he’s a brave man, a fallen hero, he knew what he was getting himself into because he enlisted. There’s no reason to enlist; he enlisted. And he was where he wanted to be, exactly where he wanted to be, with exactly the people he wanted to be with when his life was taken.

That was the message. That was the message that was transmitted.

It stuns me that a member of Congress would have listened in on that conversation. Absolutely stuns me. And I thought at least that was sacred. You know, when I was a kid growing up, a lot of things were sacred in our country. Women were sacred, looked upon with great honor. That’s obviously not the case anymore as we see from recent cases. Life — the dignity of life — is sacred. That’s gone. Religion, that seems to be gone as well.

Gold Star families, I think that left in the convention over the summer. But I just thought — the selfless devotion that brings a man or woman to die on the battlefield, I just thought that that might be sacred.

And when I listened to this woman and what she was saying, and what she was doing on TV, the only thing I could do to collect my thoughts was to go and walk among the finest men and women on this Earth. And you can always find them because they’re in Arlington National Cemetery. I went over there for an hour-and-a-half, walked among the stones, some of whom I put there because they were doing what I told them to do when they were killed.

I’ll end with this: In October — April, rather, of 2015, I was still on active duty, and I went to the dedication of the new FBI field office in Miami. And it was dedicated to two men who were killed in a firefight in Miami against drug traffickers in 1986 — a guy by the name of Grogan and Duke. Grogan almost retired, 53 years old; Duke, I think less than a year on the job.

Anyways, they got in a gunfight and they were killed. Three other FBI agents were there, were wounded, and now retired. So we go down — Jim Comey gave an absolutely brilliant memorial speech to those fallen men and to all of the men and women of the FBI who serve our country so well, and law enforcement so well.

There were family members there. Some of the children that were there were three or four years old when their dads were killed on that street in Miami-Dade. Three of the men that survived the fight were there, and gave a rendition of how brave those men were and how they gave their lives.

And a congresswoman stood up, and in the long tradition of empty barrels making the most noise, stood up there and all of that and talked about how she was instrumental in getting the funding for that building, and how she took care of her constituents because she got the money, and she just called up President Obama, and on that phone call he gave the money — the $20 million — to build the building. And she sat down, and we were stunned. Stunned that she had done it. Even for someone that is that empty a barrel, we were stunned.

But, you know, none of us went to the press and criticized. None of us stood up and were appalled. We just said, O.K., fine.

So I still hope, as you write your stories, and I appeal to America, that let’s not let this maybe last thing that’s held sacred in our society — a young man, young woman going out and giving his or her life for our country — let’s try to somehow keep that sacred. But it eroded a great deal yesterday by the selfish behavior of a member of Congress.


https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/19/us/politics/statement-kelly-gold-star.html

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He attacked the congress woman, while backing her up, then slamming 'everyone' for the state of politics and society (even though 90% of what he said was basically represented within Trump). Disrespect for women (Trump), disrespect for gold star parents (Trump), disrespect for the sanctity of life (Trump talked about murdering women and children during the election).

Liar.

DEMOCRATS don't care about soldiers or sailors or airmen unless they think they can use a tragedy to slam Trump.

It's telling that no DEMOCRAT wants to talk about this:

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Liar.

I don't think he can read because Kelly sure never backed her up.


"Well, let me tell you what I told him. Let me tell you what my best friend, Joe Dunford, told me — because he was my casualty officer. He said, Kel, he was doing exactly what he wanted to do when he was killed. He knew what he was getting into by joining that 1 percent. He knew what the possibilities were because we’re at war. And when he died, in the four cases we’re talking about, Niger, and my son’s case in Afghanistan — when he died, he was surrounded by the best men on this Earth: his friends."

"That’s what the President tried to say to four families the other day. I was stunned when I came to work yesterday morning, and brokenhearted at what I saw a member of Congress doing. A member of Congress who listened in on a phone call from the President of the United States to a young wife, and in his way tried to express that opinion — that he’s a brave man, a fallen hero, he knew what he was getting himself into because he enlisted. There’s no reason to enlist; he enlisted. And he was where he wanted to be, exactly where he wanted to be, with exactly the people he wanted to be with when his life was taken."

"That was the message. That was the message that was transmitted."

"It stuns me that a member of Congress would have listened in on that conversation. Absolutely stuns me. And I thought at least that was sacred. You know, when I was a kid growing up, a lot of things were sacred in our country. Women were sacred (reference to Weinstein), looked upon with great honor. That’s obviously not the case anymore as we see from recent cases. Life — the dignity of life — is sacred. (reference to abortion) That’s gone."

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I don't think he can read because Kelly sure never backed her up.

He's a liar.

Like these two:

One is a fictional character. The other's character is fictional.

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Trump politicized it from the very beginning, and brought Kelly into it. Kelly is in a mess of his own making, and 90% of what Kelly complained about is the product of Trump and Trump alone.

That's just an outright lie; what is wrong with you morons on the left??? Seriously!

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It is noted that the Trump side of the argument has called a black woman a prostitute, even though that woman is 100% correct in her depiction of Trump's remarks. And Kelly backs her up, so does the Gold Star parent. It is further noted by disrespecting women (for being correct), the Trump supporter clearly wasn't listening to Kelly.

Link up dumbfuck.