Kim Jong Un is kinda justified in his thinking. NK should become a nuclear power.

[Minister of Truth]

The only thing preventing America from invading North Korea is a nuclear holocaust in South Korea. The only reason Iraq was invaded was because Saddam didn't have the weapons to prevent in an invasion, and the same could be said for Libya which gave up its nuclear program in exchange for... what? Magic beans? Meanwhile, Trump is pulling the legs off the one thing that could have worked via precedence -- the nuclear agreement with Iran.

As evil as Kim is, he's actually making the wisest choice, and the one which grants him the most leverage. North Korea WILL become a nuclear power, and Trump can't do much about it.

Nuclear capability was the goal of Kim Jong-Il, long before Douchebag Donald was president.

[Amadeus]

Nuclear capability was the goal of Kim Jong-Il, long before Douchebag Donald was president.

The Iraq War is what motivated the current situation. Clinton had some success, but when Bush and the Neocons started pinging off 'evil nations' on a three-nation list, this was a foregone conclusion.

[Jarod]

Kim’s position is the stance any “good negotiator” would take.

[dukkha]

Why should I listen to someone who admits to having zero respect for human rights, and thinks that Putin's abuse of the Russian people is 'his business'? Seriously, fuck off -- lowlife.

by all means continue your delusions of "human rights" as a viable foreign policy, you might add some unicorns and smiley emoticons to that junk noise

[dukkha]

The Iraq War is what motivated the current situation. Clinton had some success, but when Bush and the Neocons started pinging off 'evil nations' on a three-nation list, this was a foregone conclusion.

what Clinton success? They took the money and continued development

[Amadeus]

by all means continue your delusions of "human rights" as a viable foreign policy, you might add some unicorns and smiley emoticons to that junk noise

As I said, it's easy to be successful in your policy and goals when you aim low. If you stand for nothing, then why should you or anyone like you be a leader in life or in the international community?

[dukkha]

As I said, it's easy to be successful in your policy and goals when you aim low. If you stand for nothing, then why should you or anyone like you be a leader in life or in the international community?

improving relations with Russia is "aiming low?"
Why is supporting the military industrial establishment a good thing?
Why is ratcheting down tensions between the 2 largest military's bad?

and this would be nothing new -even during the Soviet Union we always looked to reduce tensions
and sign arms control agreement.

Strategically anything to keep a tighter Sino-Russian alliance from happening is also good..

If you want human rights, you have to address security concerns first-not the other way around

[Amadeus]

what Clinton success? They took the money and continued development

No, they cheated, but cheating in an international agreement is actually beneficial for the USA in terms of gaining leverage from China and putting pressure on NK. Would you say that Trump has been successful in his approach to NK, and if you do, what metric are you using?

[Amadeus]

improving relations with Russia is "aiming low?"
Why is supporting the military industrial establishment a good thing?
Why is ratcheting down tensions between the 2 largest military's bad?

What is the end goal of having good relations with Russia when they have ZERO reason to change their behavior?

Keeping in mind that Russia is a failing economy that exports nothing but a soon-to-be irrelevant source of power.

[dukkha]

No, they cheated, but cheating in an international agreement is actually beneficial for the USA in terms of gaining leverage from China and putting pressure on NK. Would you say that Trump has been successful in his approach to NK, and if you do, what metric are you using?

yes they cheated..which means it was not successful.
Trump now faces miniaturization/ICBM reentry, and even hydrogen bombs.

It's playing out. it's neither successful or unsuccessful at this point

[dukkha]

What is the end goal of having good relations with Russia when they have ZERO reason to change their behavior?

Keeping in mind that Russia is a failing economy that exports nothing but a soon-to-be irrelevant source of power.

less spending on NATO. Less redundant weaponry pointed at each other.
detente or even rapproachment means talking at all levels which leads to diplomacy.
Unlike now where we don't talk and mindlessly continue militarization

[Amadeus]

less spending on NATO. Less redundant weaponry pointed at each other.
detente or even rapproachment means talking at all levels which leads to diplomacy.
Unlike now where we don't talk and mindlessly continue militarization

I'd double or triple NATO spending -- I'd quintuple it -- if it would mean the end of Putin's Russia.

[dukkha]

I'd double or triple NATO spending -- I'd quintuple it -- if it would mean the end of Putin's Russia.

it wouldn't . you see what they did when they couldn't compete with our spending
they violated the I.N.F treaty because they had no other choice for parity

[cancel2 2022]

Looks like China has finally had enough of North Korea.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world...ve-Kim-Jong-Un

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[Irish]

Yeah such a wise choice! His people are starving. They've been condemned by every nation on earth, and have severe sanctions against all their exports!

We knew dems love and admire communist dictators. At least this guy admits to it.