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Thread: Banning 'To Kill a Mockingbird' teaches students the wrong lesson

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    Quote Originally Posted by krudzu View Post
    You haven't read it either, have you?
    Are you going the regale the form with another of your tales?

    A Story for Every Occasion™.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    Thanks, it sounds like a great book.

    I think it might be a great read for an advanced placement class. I think it should be noted in history. We act like the Founders were gods, but they aren’t, they were men, and they had their flaws.
    Slaves were always banged by their Masters throughout History.

    Thomas Jefferson is a notable American, his Story deserves to be told. When his wife, Martha, died, he took up with her half sister, Sally (an inherited slave girl)
    He had children by her and they stayed together. I think the Cemetery at Monticello has been opened up to their descendants?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    In the sequel Atticus is in the White Citizen's Council and has to explain it to Scout.
    I haven't read it yet, is it worthwhile?


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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    I'm definitely not saying my friend is right but are white people allowed to say he is wrong?
    What do you mean by "allowed"? People will argue that he's right or wrong, it's all opinion.


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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    You haven't read it either, have you?
    No kidding, huh!


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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    What do you mean by "allowed"? People will argue that he's right or wrong, it's all opinion.
    I should have put that word in quotes. I don't disagree with you that's it's a matter of opinion but in these politically and racially charged times can white people really step up to him and say he's wrong?

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    People who can't handle being made uncomfortable by others' ideas shouldn't be allowed to express any of their own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    I should have put that word in quotes. I don't disagree with you that's it's a matter of opinion but in these politically and racially charged times can white people really step up to him and say he's wrong?
    Did your friend read Mockingbird or is he going by hearsay? I don't think of it as whether people can say he's wrong because the book means different things to different people. I'd rather have a discussion and really listen to his negatives before commenting.

    This is the best I can do cawacko. I don't see it as right or wrong.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    I'm definitely not saying my friend is right but are white people allowed to say he is wrong?
    Yes. White people have free speech, as do the colored folk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    I support people reading, especially young people. I'll ask you the same question as I did cawacko.

    Do you think "The Hemingses of Monticello" should be required reading?

    It's about Thomas Jefferson fucking his slave girl (and his wife's half sister) at 15, and having children by her ... and living together until his death.
    It sounds like a great book. I don't know if schools like stories that give the real scoop about historical figures, though.


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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    It sounds like a great book. I don't know if schools like stories that give the real scoop about historical figures, though.
    hahaha ... it's the real story alright. You can't make this stuff up.

    Sally Hemmings, ... is the daughter of Martha's father (along with Martha). Does Martha even KNOW Sally is her half-sister?
    Sally's Mother is the product of an African slave and a Sea Captain, so Sally is a Quadroon (one forth black).
    After TJ's wife Martha dies, he hooks up with Sally. Does she look like his late wife Martha?
    Sally, at 15, is in Paris with TJ. She ISN'T a 'slave' in France, she could have legally walked away, ... why didn't she?
    At TJ's death, she was freed, but would routinely place flowers on his grave. What's up with that?

    For every question that is answered, another one pops up that isn't.

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    Can those Rubes in Mississippi even read?

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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    I haven't read it yet, is it worthwhile?
    Yes, although the ending seems less than satisfactory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by One foot on a banana peel View Post
    Can those Rubes in Mississippi even read?
    Sure. They can even write books--William Faulkner, Richard Wright, Willie Morris, Shelby Foote, John Grisham,.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    hahaha ... it's the real story alright. You can't make this stuff up.

    Sally Hemmings, ... is the daughter of Martha's father (along with Martha). Does Martha even KNOW Sally is her half-sister?
    Sally's Mother is the product of an African slave and a Sea Captain, so Sally is a Quadroon (one forth black).
    After TJ's wife Martha dies, he hooks up with Sally. Does she look like his late wife Martha?
    Sally, at 15, is in Paris with TJ. She ISN'T a 'slave' in France, she could have legally walked away, ... why didn't she?
    At TJ's death, she was freed, but would routinely place flowers on his grave. What's up with that?

    For every question that is answered, another one pops up that isn't.
    If you want to see a real conservative freak-out, mention A People's History of the United States by Howard Zinn.

    A People's History of the United States is a 1980 non-fiction book by American historian and political scientist Howard Zinn. In the book, Zinn presented a different side of history from what he considered to be the more traditional "fundamental nationalist glorification of country."[1] Zinn portrays a side of American history that can largely be seen as the exploitation and manipulation of the majority by rigged systems that hugely favor a small aggregate of elite rulers from across the orthodox political parties.


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