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    Default Trump throws down the gauntlet/diaper, the world shrugs and sides with Iran.

    While Trump is playing in the ruins of his soiled diaper, and having never read the deal himself (not having the attention span to even sit through summary), the adults in the room have agreed to continue on without America's waning, and ultimately irrelevant leadership.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7999556.html

    Theresa May, Emmanuel Macron and Angela Merkel released a joint statement affirming their support for the deal, while the European Union's foreign policy chief said the agreement was working well and continues to prevent Iran from developing atomic weapons,

    Federica Mogherini made the comments after Donald Trump announced he had chosen not to re-certify the agreement.

    Ms Mogherini said no one country could terminate the deal, which was signed onto by Britain, France, Germany, Russia, China and the European Union. Instead, she called for a "collective process" to preserve the historic accord.
    "We cannot afford as the international community to dismantle a nuclear agreement that is working," Ms Mogherini told reporters.

    She added: "This deal is not a bilateral agreement ... The international community, and the European Union with it, has clearly indicated that the deal is, and will, continue to be in place."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    While Trump is playing in the ruins of his soiled diaper, and having never read the deal himself (not having the attention span to even sit through summary), the adults in the room have agreed to continue on without America's waning, and ultimately irrelevant leadership.
    I saw the clip of the Ayatollah saying that Trump apparently doesn't understand that he can't unilaterally revoke an international treaty and that Iran will continue adhering to it.

    The report also said that they may step up their production of conventional weapons, though.

    Trump is a reckless halfwit.

    Let's all pray we live through this goofball's reign of idiocy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    While Trump is playing in the ruins of his soiled diaper, and having never read the deal himself (not having the attention span to even sit through summary), the adults in the room have agreed to continue on without America's waning, and ultimately irrelevant leadership.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7999556.html





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    Quote Originally Posted by Threedee View Post
    Can the idiot EU foreign policy chief please elaborate on how the Iran deal prevents them from developing atomic weapons?
    it doesn't. It only delays breakout.
    and to be clear this is not a treaty ( although Obama should have gone that route) it's what's called an
    "international executive agreement" -since Congress had no say.

    Trump is correct to dump it into Congres's lap - see what they do to formalize it or not.
    It was a crappy deal, in that it didn't have linkage to ballistic missiles - which Iran has been violating the spirit of the NPA.

    PS. nukes are the least of our problems w/Iran

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    isn't it interesting that Trump demands that Congress actually do its job (something Obummer never did) and the demmycrats, who've always sought to limit executive power, are objecting......

    like the Dreamers, Iran is not over......Congress has sixty days to approve or not......this is what the law required Obummer to do BEFORE he flew bales of cash to Iran in the middle of the night.........

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    ^ I don't think either party has an interest in the balance of powers..

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    Quote Originally Posted by noise View Post
    it doesn't. It only delays breakout.
    and to be clear this is not a treaty ( although Obama should have gone that route) it's what's called an
    "international executive agreement" -since Congress had no say.

    Trump is correct to dump it into Congres's lap - see what they do to formalize it or not.
    The bolded part needs to be repeated about 500 times before the Socialists can possible comprehend it.

    Yep, Iran is continuing ballistic missile and weaponization development. The agreement only limits fissile material stock piles.
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    This FP article describes in detail what Trump is trying to do, it may be too complicated for many on here to comprehend?

    http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/10/13/...h-to-pull-off/



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    There are many weaknesses in the JCPOA, but perhaps the most glaring is this: Even the most generous interpretation — and for an exceedingly generous interpretation, you can’t top Colin Kahl’s Panglossian, “best of all possible deals” description — must concede that the JCPOA only puts the nuclear issue on hold, while leaving unaddressed the rest of Iran’s nefarious activities in the region. These include its destabilizing missile program, support for regional terrorist groups, undermining of Iraqi politics, fomenting of sectarian violence throughout the region, and so on.
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    The deal is good. We bargained with house money. We owed Iran the money since the hostage crisis in the late 1970s, and in exchange we extracted consideraion? That's shrewd. \

    What, were we going to simply keep Iran's money forever?

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    Quote Originally Posted by noise View Post
    it doesn't. It only delays breakout.
    and to be clear this is not a treaty ( although Obama should have gone that route) it's what's called an
    "international executive agreement" -since Congress had no say.

    Trump is correct to dump it into Congres's lap - see what they do to formalize it or not.
    It was a crappy deal, in that it didn't have linkage to ballistic missiles - which Iran has been violating the spirit of the NPA.

    PS. nukes are the least of our problems w/Iran
    Passing the buck is what Orangetweet does best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rune View Post
    Trump is like anatta, impotent.
    Is this your alleged super intelligence at work again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    The deal is good. We bargained with house money. We owed Iran the money since the hostage crisis in the late 1970s, and in exchange we extracted consideraion? That's shrewd. \

    What, were we going to simply keep Iran's money forever?
    Of course, it would pay for the many acts of terrorism initiated and sponsored by the mad mullahs.

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