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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    What is going to shake up the system in regards to police violence?
    SEE: Mamie Till opens the coffin of her murdered son so all the world can see what America is.

    SEE: Black Olympic athletes stand with raised fists in triumph.

    Research the effect that both had on the movement.

    This is America .. where money is more important than God .. and America sells a false image that it does not want exposed.

    The NFL wants to sell the game overseas. America wants to sell the image of diversity, fairness, and equality. The truth can't be helpful.
    AMERICAN HISTORY ITSELF IS A TESTAMENT TO THE STRENGTH AND RESILIENCE OF AFRICAN PEOPLE. WE, ALONG WITH THE COURGE AND SACRIFICES OF CONSCIOUS WHITE AMERICANS, LIKE VIOLA LIUZZO, EVERETT DIRKSEN, AND MANY OTHERS, HAVE FOUGHT AND DIED TOGETHER FOR OUR FREEDOM, AND FOR OUR SURVIVAL.

    In America, rights are are not determined by what is just, fair, equitable, honest, nor by what Jesus would do. Rights are determined ONLY by what you can DEMAND.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor View Post
    What makes you so brave to talk like that behind the safety of a keyboard.
    The safety of his keyboard is your answer.
    AMERICAN HISTORY ITSELF IS A TESTAMENT TO THE STRENGTH AND RESILIENCE OF AFRICAN PEOPLE. WE, ALONG WITH THE COURGE AND SACRIFICES OF CONSCIOUS WHITE AMERICANS, LIKE VIOLA LIUZZO, EVERETT DIRKSEN, AND MANY OTHERS, HAVE FOUGHT AND DIED TOGETHER FOR OUR FREEDOM, AND FOR OUR SURVIVAL.

    In America, rights are are not determined by what is just, fair, equitable, honest, nor by what Jesus would do. Rights are determined ONLY by what you can DEMAND.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackascoal View Post
    SEE: Mamie Till opens the coffin of her murdered son so all the world can see what America is.

    SEE: Black Olympic athletes stand with raised fists in triumph.

    Research the effect that both had on the movement.

    This is America .. where money is more important than God .. and America sells a false image that it does not want exposed.

    The NFL wants to sell the game overseas. America wants to sell the image of diversity, fairness, and equality. The truth can't be helpful.
    But what's that going to change vis a vis police violence? NFL players are taking a knee yes but how do you see the change occurring? I'm assuming it will come through legislation but maybe not. I'm not asking as a gotcha I'm asking out of curiosity/interest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    But what's that going to change vis a vis police violence? NFL players are taking a knee yes but how do you see the change occurring? I'm assuming it will come through legislation but maybe not. I'm not asking as a gotcha I'm asking out of curiosity/interest.
    Don't you already have the answer to this?

    You said libertarians can fix it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TTQ64 View Post
    Not many.
    How many?

    I'll understand if you don't know, little ho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PraiseKek View Post
    We're telling you to get in the gas chamber and you don't have a say in it nigger.
    End yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TTQ64 View Post
    Don't you already have the answer to this?

    You said libertarians can fix it.
    I don't understand your attitude. It pisses you off that someone who is white and is Republican actually cares about the issue and discusses it. I'm asking BAC his opinion and how he see's change playing out.

    It's funny you told me before to listen to people yet get upset when I ask BAC a question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    But what's that going to change vis a vis police violence? NFL players are taking a knee yes but how do you see the change occurring? I'm assuming it will come through legislation but maybe not. I'm not asking as a gotcha I'm asking out of curiosity/interest.
    It will indeed come through legislation AND corporate pressure. That's how society changes.

    Remember the NC bathroom law?

    Repealed.

    How?

    Corporate pressure.

    I repeat .. the ONLY way out of this is through the players.
    AMERICAN HISTORY ITSELF IS A TESTAMENT TO THE STRENGTH AND RESILIENCE OF AFRICAN PEOPLE. WE, ALONG WITH THE COURGE AND SACRIFICES OF CONSCIOUS WHITE AMERICANS, LIKE VIOLA LIUZZO, EVERETT DIRKSEN, AND MANY OTHERS, HAVE FOUGHT AND DIED TOGETHER FOR OUR FREEDOM, AND FOR OUR SURVIVAL.

    In America, rights are are not determined by what is just, fair, equitable, honest, nor by what Jesus would do. Rights are determined ONLY by what you can DEMAND.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackascoal View Post
    It will indeed come through legislation AND corporate pressure. That's how society changes.

    Remember the NC bathroom law?

    Repealed.

    How?

    Corporate pressure.

    I repeat .. the ONLY way out of this is through the players.
    What will corporate pressure do? A bathroom law is pretty straightforward black and white (please pardon the pun). Legislating police behavior is a much more complicated issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    Let'm kneel, let'm lock arms, let'm roll out a charcoal grill and make hot dogs, whatever......they've shown what they are and what they like to do on the job. They're privileged, spoiled and elite having nothing in common with the fans who for the most part must obey bosses at their jobs and leave personal baggage and worldly concerns at home. Their precious money will dry up because they've doomed their own business. They can go back home and pump gas for a living. They have spit in the faces of people of all races, colors and national origin whose money they took for their own millionaire lifestyle. Let'm pay for their own sjw causes.
    Rich elites can't express political opinions? Sure you are a Republican? Citizens United much? Last I checked corporations can donate money to campaigns and try to derail others. And it's not like a corporation enjoys a social hour or non business time to do it.
    When a corporation is "expressing" itself it's "on the job." Is a player on the clock while the flag ceremony is going on? I don't think so. He isn't in a huddle, the coach isn't talking to him. They carve out a moment where we are all watching the flag and some
    ditz or dudimous is warbling disrespectfully through the anthem. That's not work detail, that's a coffee break. Why should you or the boss have a say in what anyone does does on break? He didn't defame the corporation while on break, he chose to not stand at attention
    for the flag. If he wants to pick his nose, scratch his nuts or practice punts or take a leak, none of the employers business. Plus, players omitting to fall in line aren't likely making a statement about their financial plight, they are likely giving Trump and your ilk the middle finger.
    Good on them. You have the right to express your disgust and vote against these people with your wallet by the same license they have the right to piss you the hell off by having a conscience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TTQ64 View Post
    They were found innocent because the white bicycle kops had already broke his neck when they originally terrorized and harassed him upon initial contact.

    The white bicycle kops are who is being protested. They had no reason to stop Grey in the first place. Is that message clear?
    And I've seen his position of 'over charging' before. If this case follows all the others, the prosecutors purposely over charged in order to get the decision they wanted in the first place.
    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    Rich elites can't express political opinions? Sure you are a Republican? Citizens United much? Last I checked corporations can donate money to campaigns and try to derail others. And it's not like a corporation enjoys a social hour or non business time to do it.
    When a corporation is "expressing" itself it's "on the job." Is a player on the clock while the flag ceremony is going on? I don't think so. He isn't in a huddle, the coach isn't talking to him. They carve out a moment where we are all watching the flag and some
    ditz or dudimous is warbling disrespectfully through the anthem. That's not work detail, that's a coffee break. Why should you or the boss have a say in what anyone does does on break? He didn't defame the corporation while on break, he chose to not stand at attention
    for the flag. If he wants to pick his nose, scratch his nuts or practice punts or take a leak, none of the employers business. Plus, players omitting to fall in line aren't likely making a statement about their financial plight, they are likely giving Trump and your ilk the middle finger.
    Good on them. You have the right to express your disgust and vote against these people with your wallet by the same license they have the right to piss you the hell off by having a conscience.
    When a player is in uniform they are on the clock. They can be thrown out of games before it starts and they can get penalties before it starts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    What is going to shake up the system in regards to police violence?
    Voting locally
    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    Voting locally
    what will that do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    And I've seen his position of 'over charging' before. If this case follows all the others, the prosecutors purposely over charged in order to get the decision they wanted in the first place.
    Exactly.

    Overcharged is a new excuse for the privilege.

    You never hear overcharged in the Black community. Hell they will charge yo momma with accessory even if she wasn't there.

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