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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    I think it's a sign of incompetent and ineffectual republicans in congress.

    I always thought it was stupid to not allow interstate competition in the insurance market so I like it.
    According to trump, who we all agree knows nothing, sold this as a panacea during the election. I think it's a great idea to try it, and show that it isn't the answer.
    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tsuke View Post
    imo more choice and competition is always a good thing. This way people can select the best fit for them and insurance companies are required to sell competetive products.
    Except for the fact that women won't be able to afford insurance anymore, if I can opt for a plan that doesn't cover maternity. It's basically going back to the bad old days before ACA
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trump Diva View Post
    Huh? Guess you don't understand much about insurance or this Exec order. The across state lines applies only to group policies. Ending the subsidies is the biggee.
    Group policies were never the problem. The individual market is going to be devastated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celticguy View Post
    These actions will force Congress to decide what that will be. It was their job to sort that out, its still their job.
    Hah! You watch way too much Fox News.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Threedee View Post
    Not being able to buy across state lines was the single dumbest regulation of health insurance. It was indefensible, and that portion of the executive order, alone, will have a positive impact on coverage and premiums.
    In 2019, if at all
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trump Diva View Post
    By George you're a genius. Say it ain't so!

    No shit, Sherlock. But Obama removed the underwriting part many years ago. This was the part of our insurance system which needed reform. Many people had the money to buy insurance but were denied, sometimes for ridiculous reasons. There should be SOME option.

    Instead of the catastrophe called Obamacare, they could have formed some type of catastrophic pool for the uninsurable. The entirety of Obamacare was not needed to fix the most crucial pieces. Obamacare was designed with zero thought, however the response to fix it should be more thoughtful. It isn't a simplistic issue.
    ACA was designed by your industry. Are you saying they screwed up?
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Zax View Post
    why would anyone turn down free money?

    no one is denied for any "ridiculous" reason. You are either profitable or you aren't. You are either healthy enough to not use an amount of insurance that would offset what you've put in, or you aren't. Your house either is in good shape, or it's burned down and you're riddled with aids and uninsurable.

    Stop being a taker. How dare you carry the maga banner and want to be taker scum
    It's risk assessment. Underwriting is not black and white. People have been denied insurance for things as frivolous as a Xanax prescription.

    You don't know what you're talking about like a typical ignorant redneck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trump Diva View Post
    What would the other options be if there are no insurance companies?
    laws that don't interfere with the operation of insurance companies......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trump Diva View Post
    It's risk assessment. Underwriting is not black and white. People have been denied insurance for things as frivolous as a Xanax prescription.

    You don't know what you're talking about like a typical ignorant redneck.
    yeah that sounds like bullshit to me. If the person was turned down for xanax coverage it was because they were probably 65 years old, weak, fat, smoker, etc. I promise you no healthy 22 year old was ever turned down just for wanting xanax


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    Quote Originally Posted by The Zax View Post
    yeah that sounds like bullshit to me. If the person was turned down for xanax coverage it was because they were probably 65 years old, weak, fat, smoker, etc. I promise you no healthy 22 year old was ever turned down just for wanting xanax
    Nope, 30s.

    So you thought people only got declined for insurance if they had cancer, were old and out of shape?

    Wake the fuck up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    laws that don't interfere with the operation of insurance companies......
    Too late for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trump Diva View Post
    Nope, 30s.

    So you thought people only got declined for insurance if they had cancer, were old and out of shape?

    Wake the fuck up.
    Can you cite any verifiable examples, Diva my dear?

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    we have to ask ourselves one thing. Why wasnt the appropriations written into law? After all the subsidies for poor people were.

    The answer is

    1) The Obama administration did not want it to seem like the law gave a direct subsidy to rich corporations.

    2) Since there were no appropriations it got a better score in the CBO than it otherwise would have as they dont need to base their assumptions on anything.

    The democrats already passed this law. They are to blame for what is not in it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trump Diva View Post
    Nope, 30s.

    So you thought people only got declined for insurance if they had cancer, were old and out of shape?

    Wake the fuck up.
    they clearly had other issues wrong with them or poor family history.

    no insurance company would turn down an otherwise completely healthy young person. it'd be burning money. the only reason an insurance company would turn someone down is because they feel they would lose money with that person. there is no way around that. You want to compel insurance companies to buy bad goods. And even if the customer were healthy, they are under no obligation to insure that person. So again, stop being a taker.


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    show me right now the article or source about someone being turned down only for xanax.


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