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    Default Is dump going to call this domestic terroism?

    Why won't he call this terrorism?

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    lets remember how sad they were all after Newtown children were murdered by a gun nut


    then a year or so later they claimed it was all a false flag and no one died


    then these assholes started targeting the parents of murdered children with death threats



    they will do anything

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    Quote Originally Posted by TTQ64 View Post
    Why won't he call this terrorism?
    In order to fit the definition, the shooter would need to have a political agenda. So far they have no evidence of such an agenda. Horrifying as it is, if there isn't one then it isn't terrorism.
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    maybe it was just workplace violence..........
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    In order to fit the definition, the shooter would need to have a political agenda. So far they have no evidence of such an agenda. Horrifying as it is, if there isn't one then it isn't terrorism.
    When has the definition of terrorism changed?

    "the unlawful use of force and violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives" (28 C.F.R.

    He fits the bolded description

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    Quote Originally Posted by TTQ64 View Post
    When has the definition of terrorism changed?

    "the unlawful use of force and violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives" (28 C.F.R.

    He fits the bolded description
    without knowing his INTENT, you can not even begin to define this as terrorism. pull your head out of your ass.
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    without knowing his INTENT, you can not even begin to define this as terrorism. pull your head out of your ass.
    What part of unlawful use of force and violence against persons or property don't you understand? That alone qualifies as a terrorist.

    He fucking terrorized 20K people at a concert killing 58+.........stop trying to protect white men as if they can't be terrorist.

    He intended to use force and violence to kill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TTQ64 View Post
    What part of unlawful use of force and violence against persons or property don't you understand? That alone qualifies as a terrorist.
    use the whole definition or don't use it at all.
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    use the whole definition or don't use it at all.
    I'm using the part of the definition that fits. "unlawful use of force and violence against persons or property"

    it's one "or" the other.

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    Shooting 58 people is an act of terror, whether it has a political motivation or not, it is terrorism

    The President isn't going to touch that, what will happen, and I've already seen it in their media, the right is going to say the left is politicalizing it because they are raising the issue of guns in America, the false equilivancy we see any time the preponderance of guns in America exhibits itself

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Shooting 58 people is an act of terror, whether it has a political motivation or not, it is terrorism

    The President isn't going to touch that, what will happen, and I've already seen it in their media, the right is going to say the left is politicalizing it because they are raising the issue of guns in America, the false equilivancy we see any time the preponderance of guns in America exhibits itself
    EXACTLY!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TTQ64 View Post
    When has the definition of terrorism changed?

    "the unlawful use of force and violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives" (28 C.F.R.

    He fits the bolded description
    But not the whole of it. This is literally taking it out of context where you ignore the reason: "in furtherance of political or social objectives." You have simply cut off the sentence in the middle of the list of actions taken for the reason specified that makes it terrorism. What political or social objective was presented? Without it, it is not terrorism, it is just a horrible crime. It is a legal term. A criminal attorney will tell you the same, as will the attorneys working with the President.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TTQ64 View Post
    EXACTLY!
    Inaccurate. It may be terrifying but it is not terrorism. Without the rest of the sentence you are simply describing assault, first degree murder, multiple murder, etc. Not terrorism.
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