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    First, a couple messages: To AssHat- That's right, asshat, Globalism= Destroy the West. Because Liberals don't want to see the Third World come UP to American Ideals and Western-Style Freedoms and Morality, where we DON'T chop the labia off our women, we DON'T leave female babies out in the Rice Paddys to DROWN. No, Liberals cant HAVE the rest of the world copying US, because WE, AMERICA, are EVIL, didn't you know? America is the CAUSE of ALL the world's PROBLEMS, we don't do ANYTHING good, like FEED half the starving globe, or try to spread the idea inherent in EVERY Human Being, given to us by God, which is FREEDOM. Go to Cuba, which the Liberals decry as a Utopian society. Try to say the things about Castro and THEIR govt., the way Socialists Democrats in THIS country do, see how FREE the Cubans are, like the former Soviet Union, another Liberal "Utopian Society".

    And to Epicuris: I TOLD you, I could,'t stay yesterday. I only have a few minutes at 3:30 to play on this site. I'm a very busy man. But if I HAD stayed, the NEXT thing I would've said was about CUTTING SPENDING, yes, you are right. Aside from our trade policy, it is one of our biggest problems. That's why we need a Conservative that WILL cut the Federal Budget, and NOT be afraid to hurt his buddie's pet projects/earmarks. It's the reason why Repub.s have lost their way, they got LAZY, once in power, lost our support. They started to become like LIBERALS. THAT is the recent failure of Repub.s, I agree wholeheartedly with you.

    My main topic today was change. I have an important message for all. We MUST CHANGE! And do you know WHY? Because we NEED change! And what's MORE important, is that we change the WAY we change! For if we don't, then we have'nt really changed, now have we? Some people say they will BRING change, others say they are the "Agent of Change". Then there are the Millions of us who ask, "Yes, but change to WHAT? Do we want CHANGE, if its change for the WORSE? If its change to higher taxes, to more spending like drunken sailors, to MORE Govt. intrusion in our daily lives?
    If its CHANGE BACK to an APPEASEMENT of Islamic Terrorists, who want to see America and Israel DESTROYED? A CHANGE back to when terrorists planning the Destruction of The World Trade Center,s Twin Towers, and the 3,000 innocent people IN THEM, was "only a Law Enforcement problem", when the planning of the Destruction of the Pentagon and the White House or Capitol(the plane that Hero Todd Beamer told his wife on the phone, "Tell the kids I love them", then told his fellow heros "Let's Roll, and charged the SCUM who cowardly attacked civillians in an undeclared war.)
    A CHANGE when we have a President who is TOO CONCERNED WITH THEIR OWN IMAGE, OR GREED FOR POWER, TO DO THE RIGHT THING FOR THIS NATION? Is that the "change" we want? I wonde, with all the private jets and limos the candidates use, arent they afraid of "Climate Change"?
    I wonder how often they take an "Underwear Change"? I think I'll go home now and CHANGE my clothes, turn on the TV and CHANGE the channel, then sit down and CHANGE my guitar strings.
    I hope I CHANGE my opinion about whether there's ONE of these candidates (besides Romney, the Dirtbag Media doesnt like him, because he's the only Consetrvative, that's why they (NY Times!) LOVE McCain, the Liberal, and are determined to PUSH McCain on us.)that can acually IMPROVE the country, not make it WORSE. Some Repub.,s are so disgusted, they might vote for Hillary or Obama, so the country gets REALLY fucked up, then in 4 years get a REAL Conservative again. But I COULD change my mind.
    "THIS man is NOT FIT, to be President of these United States. He has CANT STRING 3 WORDS TOGETHER, WITHOUT A TELEPROMPTER! The Empty Suit, the Product of the MOST CORRUPT Political Machine in America, the Chicago Daley Democrat Machine, has TOO MANY ASSOCIATIONS WITH UNSAVORY CHARACTERS, RACE-HATERS AND TERRORISTS WHO BOMB THE PENTAGON, THE CAPITOL, NYPD HEADQUARTERS."

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    If you seriously want a change you need to vote for someone who is NOT affiliated with the two parties who have been screwing us for years.

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    A real conservative ? where ?
    Bush doubled the debt from 5 trillion to 10 trillion.
    Proving tax cuts work!

    Bush asked for and signed for the TARP money.
    The Republican senate leader backed Bush on this.

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    Meth?
    GFY

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dilloduck View Post
    If you seriously want a change you need to vote for someone who is NOT affiliated with the two parties who have been screwing us for years.
    Seriously. But I'm honestly beginning to think American's are just to fucking stupid to do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dilloduck View Post
    If you seriously want a change you need to vote for someone who is NOT affiliated with the two parties who have been screwing us for years.
    Vote Libertarian. Because you matter.
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    Honestly, if we got rid of every pet project and earmark in the budget, it would take out about 20 billion tops. It's wrong but it's not anything that's going to magically solve the budget problem. There's no easy or obvious way to cut the budget unless your a libertarian and don't bleieve government should exist. To keep all of these programs that all of us desperately want while lowering taxes to any serious degree isn't possible. And I don't mean "welfare", I mean medicare/aid, SS, and the defense budget.

    If you think you're plan is so perfect, try it out here:

    http://www.kowaldesign.com/budget/

    I was able to lower taxes a little and get rid of the deficit, but I had to cut such a large amount that it would be political suicide, even to Reagan.

    And remember, whenever the federal government has cut taxes in the past 20 years, they've done it in a way that just basically forced states to pick up the tab.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Watermark View Post
    Honestly, if we got rid of every pet project and earmark in the budget, it would take out about 20 billion tops. It's wrong but it's not anything that's going to magically solve the budget problem. There's no easy or obvious way to cut the budget unless your a libertarian and don't bleieve government should exist. To keep all of these programs that all of us desperately want while lowering taxes to any serious degree isn't possible. And I don't mean "welfare", I mean medicare/aid, SS, and the defense budget.

    If you think you're plan is so perfect, try it out here:

    http://www.kowaldesign.com/budget/

    I was able to lower taxes a little and get rid of the deficit, but I had to cut such a large amount that it would be political suicide, even to Reagan.

    And remember, whenever the federal government has cut taxes in the past 20 years, they've done it in a way that just basically forced states to pick up the tab.
    Yep and our republican guv left such a mess it is a 2% cut for education this year and projected 12% next year. State university tuition has doubled in 6 years already.
    Bush doubled the debt from 5 trillion to 10 trillion.
    Proving tax cuts work!

    Bush asked for and signed for the TARP money.
    The Republican senate leader backed Bush on this.

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    I could take off like 60 billion by getting rid of the department of education like the libertarians want to.

    But that wouldn't lower taxes in net. It would just force states to pay more for schools.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uscitizen View Post
    Yep and our republican guv left such a mess it is a 2% cut for education this year and projected 12% next year. State university tuition has doubled in 6 years already.
    How to lie with numbers. Education funding is still growing. It just may not grow at the same amount.

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    How much would we save by not funding political party primaries. I mean those are private organizations why does our tax dollars fund the voting process for them ?
    Bush doubled the debt from 5 trillion to 10 trillion.
    Proving tax cuts work!

    Bush asked for and signed for the TARP money.
    The Republican senate leader backed Bush on this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    How to lie with numbers. Education funding is still growing. It just may not grow at the same amount.
    Not in KY. for state colleges. which was all I spoke of.
    Bush doubled the debt from 5 trillion to 10 trillion.
    Proving tax cuts work!

    Bush asked for and signed for the TARP money.
    The Republican senate leader backed Bush on this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uscitizen View Post
    A real conservative ? where ?
    See how trapped you are into liberal vs conservative thinking ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by uscitizen View Post
    How much would we save by not funding political party primaries. I mean those are private organizations why does our tax dollars fund the voting process for them ?
    Probably less than a fraction of 1% of the budget.
    "Do not think that I came to bring peace... I did not come to bring peace, but a sword." - Matthew 10:34

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    Quote Originally Posted by Watermark View Post
    Probably less than a fraction of 1% of the budget.
    Well as good of a place as any to start then
    Bush doubled the debt from 5 trillion to 10 trillion.
    Proving tax cuts work!

    Bush asked for and signed for the TARP money.
    The Republican senate leader backed Bush on this.

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