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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    There is a great 30 for 30 on that.

    Trump destroyed the USFL.
    I know they did one but I don't think I've watched it. I really want to. I remember watching the USFL as a kid. I actually went to an Oakland Invader game once.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    Oh, you'd like a venue that wouldn't get that much attention then? Because that's what you're talking about. Why would someone who cares deeply about an issue and who has a high-profile platform to get a conversation started choose to make it low key instead of prominent?

    And what you call a "narrow agenda of damning America" I see as people who love the country but see an immense flaw or flaws with it, that they want to improve and are doing what they can toward that end. Can you imagine where we'd be if people throughout history hadn't felt that way, and kept their protest & expression as quiet as they could?
    do it at half time/ do it prior to the anthem- it gets plenty of coverage, and doesn't sully the anthem.

    Of course there are flaws, the problem is SOLEY FOCUSING on the flaws and missing all the good we do.
    Yes we've had the neocons in Iraq and Libya, and there have been instances of cops murdering blacks-
    but that is far from the norm. you don't hide it - but you have to keep it in perspective, and that is NOT what the kneeling does.
    The kneeling is blatant disrespect for America at large, and that is why the blowback

    as to our history -take a look at the crap being peddled these days- apologensia , hatred of whites, and generalized PC stupidity passing for historical review

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    Trump destroyed the USFL.
    He also destroyed Hillary, so there's that.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    At my job, I probably could; at other jobs, no. But what difference does that make? If the NFL decided to act against the players on this of their own accord, it's their right. It's not really my business either way.
    Well that is the point many people are making, including myself. Personally, this should have been shut down last year. Now they have let it go on too long.

    Do I think Trump should have weighed in? No. As I said, I don't think President's should weigh in on everything. But then I didn't think Trump should have weighed in on the many things he weighed in on either. You and I will just have to agree to disagree on whether Trump "demanded".

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    Fuck America.
    "Do not think that I came to bring peace... I did not come to bring peace, but a sword." - Matthew 10:34

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    The probably have burned the stub, after watching the game. No one is giving up their tickets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noise View Post
    do it at half time/ do it prior to the anthem- it gets plenty of coverage, and doesn't sully the anthem.

    Of course there are flaws, the problem is SOLEY FOCUSING on the flaws and missing all the good we do.
    Yes we've had the neocons in Iraq and Libya, and there have been instances of cops murdering blacks-
    but that is far from the norm. you don't hide it - but you have to keep it in perspective, and that is NOT what the kneeling does.
    The kneeling is blatant disrespect for America at large, and that is why the blowback

    as to our history -take a look at the crap being peddled these days- apologensia , hatred of whites, and generalized PC stupidity passing for historical review
    No one cares about the 'blowback' but Trumpettes.

    The NFL, owners, and players clearly won the day on Sunday.

    NOBODY got fired but Trump's rhetoric.
    AMERICAN HISTORY ITSELF IS A TESTAMENT TO THE STRENGTH AND RESILIENCE OF AFRICAN PEOPLE. WE, ALONG WITH THE COURGE AND SACRIFICES OF CONSCIOUS WHITE AMERICANS, LIKE VIOLA LIUZZO, EVERETT DIRKSEN, AND MANY OTHERS, HAVE FOUGHT AND DIED TOGETHER FOR OUR FREEDOM, AND FOR OUR SURVIVAL.

    In America, rights are are not determined by what is just, fair, equitable, honest, nor by what Jesus would do. Rights are determined ONLY by what you can DEMAND.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teflon Don View Post
    Well that is the point many people are making, including myself. Personally, this should have been shut down last year. Now they have let it go on too long.

    Do I think Trump should have weighed in? No. As I said, I don't think President's should weigh in on everything. But then I didn't think Trump should have weighed in on the many things he weighed in on either. You and I will just have to agree to disagree on whether Trump "demanded".
    Fair enough. But Kaep was really the only prominent player who protested, and he wasn't even playing this year - largely because he protested. The backup QB situation in the league is horrific, and without anything else considered, he definitely should be on a roster. But he isn't...so why was Trump complaining? I think one other guy kneeled earlier this year, but it was hardly even a story. Trump really ginned it up again.

    Now, he has created a rock/hard place decision for the NFL. I'm sure they don't want people boycotting because of this, but if they now "fire" every player who protested, the quality of play (and therefore watchability of the product) will take a nosedive.

    The whole thing is really a shame, and once again, I wish Trump had stayed out of it. I love football, and can easily separate the politics from the games. I hope what he's done hasn't hurt the future of the sport - I doubt that it has, but things are pretty emotional right now.

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    We are back to the same question, why do we need to play the anthem before a sporting event?

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    Quote Originally Posted by floridafan View Post
    We are back to the same question, why do we need to play the anthem before a sporting event?
    Nationalistic jingoism.
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    Americans know the only racial injustice in america is affirmative action. Blacks get special treatment in everything. There is no GIANT WHITE CONSPIRACY holding them down. Blacks are failures outside of pro sports because blacks are mentally inferior, as everyone knows.
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    AMERICAN HISTORY ITSELF IS A TESTAMENT TO THE STRENGTH AND RESILIENCE OF AFRICAN PEOPLE. WE, ALONG WITH THE COURGE AND SACRIFICES OF CONSCIOUS WHITE AMERICANS, LIKE VIOLA LIUZZO, EVERETT DIRKSEN, AND MANY OTHERS, HAVE FOUGHT AND DIED TOGETHER FOR OUR FREEDOM, AND FOR OUR SURVIVAL.

    In America, rights are are not determined by what is just, fair, equitable, honest, nor by what Jesus would do. Rights are determined ONLY by what you can DEMAND.

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    Quote Originally Posted by floridafan View Post
    We are back to the same question, why do we need to play the anthem before a sporting event?
    Good point. THE NFL has used patriotism to help sell their product.

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    Quote Originally Posted by floridafan View Post
    We are back to the same question, why do we need to play the anthem before a sporting event?
    National Anthem...........National Football League

    The anthem of America is acceptable at any event in America.
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