Black NFL players send Goodell a memo demanding racial justice!! NFL is 70% black

[cawacko]

I Looked it up and tax payers funded over 2/3rds of Heinz Field. The value of the franchise has gone up over $600 million. Public subsidies for the rich owners

Does this make me a good democrat?

[christiefan915]

I Looked it up and tax payers funded over 2/3rds of Heinz Field. The value of the franchise has gone up over $600 million. Public subsidies for the rich owners

OT but... a few years ago we had a woman mayor and she was trying to promote the idea of having two stadiums, one for football and one for baseball. Of course she got laughed at, scorned and made fun of endlessly. Then a guy became mayor after she decided not to run for another term and the first thing he did was push for two stadiums. And it happened; they were completed in the same year and they're less than half a mile apart. Suddenly two stadiums was a great idea.

They should have named the stadium after Sophie.

[christiefan915]

Does this make me a good democrat?

Pittsburghers will spend any amount of money on the Steelers no matter what party they're in!

[cawacko]

OT but... a few years ago we had a woman mayor and she was trying to promote the idea of having two stadiums, one for football and one for baseball. Of course she got laughed at, scorned and made fun of endlessly. Then a guy became mayor after she decided not to run for another term and the first thing he did was push for two stadiums. And it happened; they were completed in the same year and they're less than half a mile apart. Suddenly two stadiums was a great idea.

They should have named the stadium after Sophie.

Were the stadiums built in the early '90's?

The A's/Raiders have the last remaining "dual purpose stadium" that so many teams (including Pittsburgh) had in the '60's - '90's. God it is awful.

[blackascoal]

You just spoke earlier of capitalism being all about money and now you are saying they are doing it out of the goodness of their hearts? No disrespect to you but I'm not buying no that (no pun intended). There has to be a reason

It's because you listen with republican ears my brother. Access to clearer thinking is blocked by preconceived flawed thought.

You've completely overlooked the financial and image benefit to Blank and the Falcons organization AND its partnership with the community.

Goodness and the right thing to do also pays in dollars and cents AND the community benefits in the process. That's lost on republicans.

Goodbye Georgia Dome, hello Atlanta's newest public park
The Home Depot Backyard is one part gameday party zone, one part community-strengthening green space.



He's building a large public park where the Georgia Dome now sits that he could have sold for incredible money or put a commercial enterprise on. Blank is about as 'socialist' an owner as I've ever seen .. and that incrementalisn is to be celebrated. Lost on pure capitalists.

I'm interested in what works for the public good, and good partnerships with good corporations have a long ass record of accomplishment.

.. and if I may my friend, I think you and I have discovered the missing piece in your analysis. The sense of community. Sports teams bring a greater sense of community and a stronger sense of belonging to cities and municipalities. That's why such loss when they leave, and a rush to regain that motivation after they leave .. even at higher costs. I bet a bit of study would validate that thought.

[blackascoal]

Pittsburghers will spend any amount of money on the Steelers no matter what party they're in!

You should see the Pittsburgh fans here in Atlanta .. not just during Falcons / Steelers games .. I mean all the time. :0) I'm serious.

They are loud and funny.

[blackascoal]

Civic Pride

Their success on the field notwithstanding, sports franchises can boost civic pride by becoming focal points for community involvement. Today, the clubs in the four major American sports leagues routinely are involved in large scale charitable and community programs. They typically raise millions of dollars annually for area charities, hospitals and schools. Professional athletes are also capable of generating great interest---and raising money---when they attach their name to a civic cause.
http://peopleof.oureverydaylife.com/...ties-8395.html

It may be that for some residents, public funding for stadiums is supported for reasons other than projections of income growth or job creation. Recently many economists who are critics of sports subsidies have also recognized that sports teams generate benefit beyond that typically measured. Baade and Dye (1988, p. 37) acknowledge that “measurable economic benefits to area residents are not large enough to justify stadium subsidies and the debate must turn to immeasurable intangible benefits like fan identification and civic pride.” Noll and Zimbalist (1997, p. 58) agree that these “immeasurable” benefits may be important: “whether the value of the external benefits of a major league team to consumers really does exceed stadium subsidies is uncertain, but by no means implausible.”

Despite acknowledging the existence and potential importance of such benefits, economists have been reluctant to actually calculate them, and for good reason. Baade and Sanderson (1997, p. 104) illustrate the current state of the debate:

The estimation of consumer surplus—and its complementary benefit or cost, what is termed (positive or negative) “externalities”—is (or should be) an integral part of any benefit-cost calculation where public policy decisions are concerned, constructing a parking garage, a dam, or any other project. It is also one of the most difficult to handle. Doing such a calculation for a sports franchise is well beyond the scope of this paper, but we want to acknowledge the potential existence of this benefit to citizens and the role it could play in what may otherwise appear to be ill-informed or unwise investments in sports franchises.

Two findings indicate that the consumption value of teams is quite important in explaining why some citizens continue to support public stadium funding. First, interest in the team is important in determining the value of willingness-to-pay, which should not be the case if support was based solely on economic impact grounds. Second, while aggregate willingness-to-pay values are somewhat less than typical stadium subsidies, they are large enough to be considered an important factor in public funding for stadiums. The findings do not imply that cities should spend tax money on stadiums, but they suggest that the focus on economic impact, both by its advocates and critics, misses the true source of public support of subsidies to sports stadiums.
http://www.cas.unt.edu/~jhauge/teaching/sports/owen.pdf

[blackascoal]

.. and with great disrespect to the racist intent of this thread, I'd like to say thank you, thank you to the racist motherfucker who created it for allowing me a platform to demonstrate yet another shining jewel in Black and democratic Atlanta .. with a string of four decades of Black Mayors and Black City Councils with a majority Black population.. :0)

Arguably the best sports stadium in the world surrounded by jobs and economic opportunity, world-class businesses, innovation, great academic and cultural institutions, music and arts, and exploding expansion .. all in the midst of the Jewel of the Southeast .. Black Atlanta. :0)



Thanks again :0)

Super Bowl 2019 .. AGAIN. Shit, we must be cheating. How do we get the Super Bowl so often?

We've already hosted the Olympics.

[cawacko]

Atlanta has horrible sports fans though. Maybe the braves draw but y'all didn't draw anyone during the 'Nique years and the hawks still have trouble as do the crappy Falcons. G Tech doesn't draw. I mean I love Atlanta but the city sucks for sports

[USFREEDOM911]

Are we discussing revenue, or ratings?

Are you suggesting that with ratings down, that they're still making the same revenue?

[cancel2 2022]

Except every story you get your knickers in a twist over we’re not rogue cops but rogue blacks.

So what about the incredibly brave Dallas cops that murdered a mentally ill man on his doorstep?

[USFREEDOM911]

So what about the incredibly brave Dallas cops that murdered a mentally ill man on his doorstep?

I guess Bi-polar, schizophrenic, mentally ill people never hurt or kill anyone with a screwdriver, in GB.

[cancel2 2022]

I guess Bi-polar, schizophrenic, mentally ill people never hurt or kill anyone with a screwdriver, in GB.

This is what happens over here.

In the United States police kill people on average, every 8 hours. Very few of these deaths are ever ruled unjustified, even when police are caught on video killing unarmed people who pose absolutely no threat.

The escalation of deadly force by American police is unprecedented when compared to the rest of the first world.

So far this month, American police have killed 113 people.

By contrast, China, whose population is 4 and 1/2 times the size of the United States, recorded 12 killings by law enforcement officers in all of 2014.

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/bod...s-nature-cops/

[USFREEDOM911]

This is what happens over here.




http://thefreethoughtproject.com/bod...s-nature-cops/

So you've decided to try and change the subject, from those that are mentally ill to general population; unless you have personal knowledge that the person in your video had already been diagnosed with mental problems.

And you're really trying to use China as an example of what the Police do!!
Yeah, it's not like they would hide or conceal facts.

I accept your admission of defeat.

[cancel2 2022]

So you've decided to try and change the subject, from those that are mentally ill to general population; unless you have personal knowledge that the person in your video had already been diagnosed with mental problems.

And you're really trying to use China as an example of what the Police do!!
Yeah, it's not like they would hide or conceal facts.

I accept your admission of defeat.

I am showing you how the police deal with knives over here, I don't know if that guy was mentally ill or not. UK police are also issued with stab proof jackets for incidents such as this, killing suspects is a last resort.