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    Quote Originally Posted by USFREEDOM911 View Post
    What happens when a state law contradicts a U.S. federal law?

    ...State laws only govern the citizens within a particular state, but federal laws apply to all U.S. citizens. When state and federal laws clash, think of the federal law as the trump card. In theory, a state law that goes against federal law is null and void, but in practice, there's a bit more of a gray area. What it really comes down to is enforcement.
    If a state defies federal law, but the federal government doesn't enforce its law in that state, is federal law really the trump card?...

    The Doctrine of Pre-emption and The Supremacy Clause

    ...The law that applies to situations where state and federal laws disagree is called the supremacy clause, which is part of article VI of the Constitution. The supremacy cause contains what's known as the doctrine of pre-emption, which says that the federal government wins in the case of conflicting legislation. Basically, if a federal and state law contradict, then when you're in the state you can follow the state law, but the fed can decide to stop you.
    The operative term here, though, is "can."
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    not only no, but hell fucking no. we the people have the right of jury nullification, therefore if we the people determine a federal law exceeds or supercedes the federal powers granted to it by the states and we the people, we the people can nullify with a not guilty verdict.
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    Good. I don't want my state taxes subsidizing the federal quest to roust poor, hard working, menial wage earning migrants by using a thin state police force that should be catching violent criminals.
    but you're a fucking federal state loving hypocrite who thinks that the feds should be able to tell people in states what kind of guns they can own and what they cant.
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Then you must also agree that waiting periods for buying guns is a limit on the 2nd amendment right to bear arms?

    Sounds to me more like you have a problem that people don't openly accept abortion. Give her a coat hanger is she doesn't want to wait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFM View Post
    Then you must also agree that waiting periods for buying guns is a limit on the 2nd amendment right to bear arms?

    Sounds to me more like you have a problem that people don't openly accept abortion. Give her a coat hanger is she doesn't want to wait.
    bye bye!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Covfefe View Post
    bye bye!
    Run like the typical coward, bitch.

    If she uses the coat hanger with as much vigor as she fights for the right to kill the result of having spread her legs, we won't have to worry about her wanting another abortion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    I asked a simple question and have received no answer.

    What federal law requires local PDs to perform the duties of federal immigration authorities?
    So you refuse to address that California is passing a law that is in direct violation of Federal law.
    Is that because it knocks over your house of cards??
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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    not only no, but hell fucking no. we the people have the right of jury nullification, therefore if we the people determine a federal law exceeds or supercedes the federal powers granted to it by the states and we the people, we the people can nullify with a not guilty verdict.
    Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight; because the Feds have laws against Jury nullification!!
    SEDITION: incitement of resistance to or insurrection against lawful authority.


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    Quote Originally Posted by USFREEDOM911 View Post
    So you refuse to address that California is passing a law that is in direct violation of Federal law.
    Is that because it knocks over your house of cards??
    Funny toad.

    As usual, that easy question from me goes unanswered.

    Quote the federal law that requires local PDs to perform the duties of federal immigration authorities. That what Sanctuary is all about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by USFREEDOM911 View Post
    Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight; because the Feds have laws against Jury nullification!!
    have you not been reading my posts about the exorbitant measures that judges AND prosecutors have taken in an attempt to eliminate jury nullification?????
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    Funny toad.

    As usual, that easy question from me goes unanswered.

    Quote the federal law that requires local PDs to perform the duties of federal immigration authorities. That what Sanctuary is all about.
    You complain; but you still can't address the FACT that Federal law "Trumps" State law.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    have you not been reading my posts about the exorbitant measures that judges AND prosecutors have taken in an attempt to eliminate jury nullification?????
    Did any of those posts have anything that states that the Feds have a law addressing this??
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    Time to lock up their legislatire
    "Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything." Joseph Stalin
    The USA has lost WWIV to China with no other weapons but China Virus and some cash to buy democrats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by USFREEDOM911 View Post
    Did any of those posts have anything that states that the Feds have a law addressing this??
    law? no, court rules, judge directions, willful ignorance of the constitution.....yes. but if it's not 'law', then i guess it means nothing to you? is it within the law for a judge to tell a jury that nullification is not to be used? or that their feelings on a law are not to be considered? or do you just laugh as the sheeple swallow the koolaid of a judges directions?
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by USFREEDOM911 View Post
    You complain; but you still can't address the FACT that Federal law "Trumps" State law.
    Non-answer. I accept your concession.

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    Quote Originally Posted by USFREEDOM911 View Post
    You complain; but you still can't address the FACT that Federal law "Trumps" State law.
    which must be why california sheriffs and new york chiefs can still deny permits to carry weapons via the 2nd Amendment???????
    A sad commentary on we, as a people, and our viewpoint of our freedom can be summed up like this. We have liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans, yet those very people look at Constitutionalists as radical and extreme.................so those liberals and conservatives, Democrats and Republicans must believe that the constitution is radical and extreme.

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