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    As I keep saying, I'm torn on it - but it's pretty obvious that conservatives are terrified of changing the system.

    For that matter, conservatives are terrified of more people actually voting. From motor voter all the way through the current "voter integrity commission" or whatever it is, they have consistently, without fail, opposed and tried to keep down any measure that would enable more people to vote.

    So, I get it. Without the electoral, future elections would look pretty bleak for the righties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfreak View Post
    No, we have not. But I certainly understand your desire not to be proven wrong again. It is simple math. So don't question something so simple if you don't wish to discuss it.
    Yes, we have, but unfortunately because of the corruption of the database I just cant prove it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noise View Post
    yes. it's counter-intuitive, but the EC actually forces candidates to campaign more in less populated areas.
    That is a good thing
    I dunno if it actually is good & if it is to some degree who is it good for?

    Example Romney, he had to kowtow to heavily subsidized farmers in Iowa & such, & then had to itcha-sketch & run away from all that to kowtow to big corps & donors etc...
    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfreak View Post
    key words there... MORE THAN HALF
    Nope, it can also be, as in this case, the greater number, sorry didn't mean to change my post to remove part of the definition, I was just trying to clean it up.

    A majority doesn't always mean more than half

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    It's not really an "analysis." What you're essentially saying is that people in CA matter less. Their votes shouldn't count as full votes.
    that is in fact the intended result of watering down the straight popular vote with two electoral votes from each state regardless of population.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Covfefe View Post
    Nope, it can also be, as in this case, the greater number, sorry didn't mean to change my post to remove part of the definition, I was just trying to clean it up.

    A majority doesn't always mean more than half
    it does in mathematics and politics......only in rhetoric does it mean less than 51%......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    [1]As I keep saying, I'm torn on it - but it's pretty obvious that conservatives are terrified of changing the system.

    [2]For that matter, conservatives are terrified of more people actually voting. From motor voter all the way through the current "voter integrity commission" or whatever it is, they have consistently, without fail, opposed and tried to keep down any measure that would enable more people to vote.

    [3]So, I get it. Without the electoral, future elections would look pretty bleak for the righties.
    1. This is blatantly untrue. All the conservative I know want to change the system by eliminating huge swaths of the federal government that are inconsistent with its constitutional authority.
    2. Again untrue. You're confusing wanting integrity in the process for not wanting the process to be easily accessible.
    3. This is true, but what you advocate is troubling as well for residents of 48 states that aren't New York and California.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    As I keep saying, I'm torn on it - but it's pretty obvious that conservatives are terrified of changing the system.

    For that matter, conservatives are terrified of more people actually voting. From motor voter all the way through the current "voter integrity commission" or whatever it is, they have consistently, without fail, opposed and tried to keep down any measure that would enable more people to vote.

    So, I get it. Without the electoral, future elections would look pretty bleak for the righties.
    True, they are & for good reason-most Americans don't support their agenda PERIOD..
    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    As I keep saying, I'm torn on it - but it's pretty obvious that conservatives are terrified of changing the system.

    For that matter, conservatives are terrified of more people actually voting. From motor voter all the way through the current "voter integrity commission" or whatever it is, they have consistently, without fail, opposed and tried to keep down any measure that would enable more people to vote.

    So, I get it. Without the electoral, future elections would look pretty bleak for the righties.
    Allow me to translate this ^^^^^

    whaaaaaa whaaaaa, Hillary SHOULD BE PRESIDENT whaaaaaaaaa
    This just In::: Trump indicted for living in liberals heads and not paying RENT

    C̶N̶N̶ SNN.... Shithole News Network

    Trump Is Coming back to a White House Near you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Covfefe View Post
    Yes, we have, but unfortunately because of the corruption of the database I just cant prove it.
    corruption of what database?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfreak View Post
    corruption of what database?
    JPP

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    Quote Originally Posted by Covfefe View Post
    Nope, it can also be, as in this case, the greater number, sorry didn't mean to change my post to remove part of the definition, I was just trying to clean it up.

    A majority doesn't always mean more than half
    when it comes to the discussion of 'will of the people' it most certainly means more than half. when is the last time you heard someone reference data that is under 50% as the majority? There is a reason the word 'plurality' exists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Getin the ring View Post
    Allow me to translate this ^^^^^

    whaaaaaa whaaaaa, Hillary SHOULD BE PRESIDENT whaaaaaaaaa
    That's as intelligent as it gets for you. Nice work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfreak View Post
    when it comes to the discussion of 'will of the people' it most certainly means more than half. when is the last time you heard someone reference data that is under 50% as the majority? There is a reason the word 'plurality' exists.
    Sorry, don't agree with you, candidate win elections all the time without 50% of the vote and they say, the majority voted for them, meaning the greater number.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    As I keep saying, I'm torn on it - but it's pretty obvious that conservatives are terrified of changing the system.

    For that matter, conservatives are terrified of more people actually voting. From motor voter all the way through the current "voter integrity commission" or whatever it is, they have consistently, without fail, opposed and tried to keep down any measure that would enable more people to vote.

    So, I get it. Without the electoral, future elections would look pretty bleak for the righties.
    LMAO, you mean conservatives are intelligent enough to understand the merits of the electoral college. Whereas Dems only cry about the EC when they lose the election. Your party knew it could happen as you whined about it after the 2000 elections. Yet they did nothing to change it when they controlled the WH and both houses of Congress. Why is that do you think?

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