More Troops to Afghan

[dukkha]

lol

Blew a hole in your autonomy bullshit and that's the best you have?

When it comes to Orangetweet, you can take it to the bank that "autonomy" = "obliviousness". Get ready for another lost aircraft carrier.

you are conflating prison guards abuse to war strategy?
it's a ridiculous stretch

[Bigdog]

Funny little lemmingtard. Unlike the Orange Clown, Obama remained informed rather than willfully ignorant.

Orange is the New White

General Obama was stupid to provide those details to the enemy, racist piggy.

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Orange is the New White

General Obama was stupid to provide those details to the enemy, racist piggy.

Trump is so dopey w/ the John Wayne-movie inspired "surprise attacks are always the way to go!"

There are strategic reasons why we reveal details from time to time. You really shouldn't even be talking about foreign policy.

[Stretch]

Don't spin it. This sucks. The globalists have invaded the White House. We need to be out of that shithole. There is nothing to be gained by us staying.

What is ironic is that the same lefties who were clamoring for Trump to get rid of Bannon got rid of the one guy who opposed this.

I can't figger out whether the libs really wanna go or stay in Afghanistan. Or maybe they are only interested in cheap political points?

The problem here is that terrorists are "globalists" too in the sense that they have no "nation". They're like spiders crawling all over the place. They nest where they will and then procreate. This isn't like WWll with specific national armies to fight against, win, surrender docs are signed and help rebuild. This is an ideological religious bunch who connect and communicate with each other all over the world using technology and internet to specifically get as little as just 1 person to drive a truck through innocent civilians outside having lunch at a café or having a Sunday stroll across a bridge, etc. Cooperation of 'civilized' countries is needed to fight a common enemy. JMHO

[Bigdog]

Trump is so dopey w/ the John Wayne-movie inspired "surprise attacks are always the way to go!"

There are strategic reasons why we reveal details from time to time. You really shouldn't even be talking about foreign policy.

Strategic? OMG

So how did that work out, General Obama?

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Strategic? OMG

So how did that work out, General Obama?

Mosul worked - that was the 1st one Trump said we should have had a "surprise attack" with.

So silly. Please don't vote.

[Nomad]

here is what I heard:

http://time.com/4910284/donald-trump...policy-speech/
in a prime-time address to unveil his new Afghanistan strategy,
Trump said the U.S. would shift away from a "time-based" approach, instead linking its assistance to results and to cooperation from the beleaguered Afghan government, Pakistan and others.
He insisted it would be a "regional" strategy that addressed the role played by other South Asian nations — especially Pakistan and its tolerance of the Taliban.

"America will work with the Afghan government as long as we see determination and progress," Trump said. "However, our commitment is not unlimited, and our support is not a blank check."

And what the terrorists heard in the context of the rest of the speech which you didn't post: "We will only stay there for so long before we leave, so just wait us out and eventually you'll have the run of the place".

[tsuke]

Really good speech.

Laid out a comprehensive plan, including Pakistan and India. No time lines. No nation building. Conditions based withdrawal. And I like the idea of a coalition government including the Taliban.

Gives them a reason to quit the fight in favor of a political solution in Afghanistan.

i really hated timelines. Its like all the terrorists have to do is sit tight until that date.

[Darth Omar]

No leader deserves the benefit of the doubt on using our military. No leader has used our military in a just and reasoned way in many decades. If there is one thing that we as citizens should not trust in our leaders, it is when they commit our forces and put our brave soldiers in harm's way.

The track record is poor. And we have no reason to believe Trump will be better. In fact, we have many reasons to think he will be worse.

Do you ever listen to yourself?

No Commander in Chief has the benefit of doubt with regard to the military? I thought he was CIC?

That said, your moralizing on this issue has gaping holes in it, as I pointed out in my last response. If you think people won't suffer if we abandon Afghanistan, you are delusional. It will work exactly as well as it did in Iraq.

Trump was left with no easy choice on this. And since he is going try novel things, he deserves a shot at it. And if it doesn't work, he can pull out at his, unannounced, discretion.

Since he is, CIC, after all.

[Amadeus]

i really hated timelines. Its like all the terrorists have to do is sit tight until that date.

Bogus talking point. Either terrorists and militants take over the country after America leaves or they don't. In Afghanistan's case, they will -- regardless of the timeline.

[Getin the ring]

It's just really comforting to know we now have a President that gets it.

Military options is and should not be a political decision, end of discussion.
You fight, you fight until you win or are defeated...America wins.
No time table when there is no game clock, that's just amateur.
Presidency is no place for amateurs

[Bigdog]

Mosul worked - that was the 1st one Trump said we should have had a "surprise attack" with.

So silly. Please don't vote.

So what were the military details of the Mosul action that General Obama revealed to the enemy? Troop strengths? Timeline of troop movements? withdrawal deadlines? How did it help our troops?

[domer76]

you are conflating prison guards abuse to war strategy?
it's a ridiculous stretch

lol

I'm referring to autonomy, you fucking moron.

Strategy? What strategy does Orangetweet have? He'll have to watch Fox to figure out what's going on.

[Darth Omar]

i really hated timelines. Its like all the terrorists have to do is sit tight until that date.

They won't have that luxury now.

And they will be hit hard, because Trump is going to relax the rules of engagement and allow his field commanders to make real time decisions on the battle field. Nobody wants this, including Trump.

But if we're going to do it, do it right.

[tsuke]

They won't have that luxury now.

And they will be hit hard, because Trump is going to relax the rules of engagement and allow his field commanders to make real time decisions on the battle field. Nobody wants this, including Trump.

But if we're going to do it, do it right.

i think thats all you need really. Just relax the rules kill everyone you can and leave. If they act up again go in again and kill them. Eventually they realize that if they want to hit western targets they can hit france and germany and other countries not willing to fight back but not the US.