It's interesting

[Darth Omar]

Would you compare active communists today to the horrors of Marxist regimes of the 20th Century?

Let's say, for the sake of argument, that I simply hate the Nazis who went to Charlottesville for what they are (powerless). Are you telling me that I shouldn't be critical of them?

Also, I changed my name to Establishment during the GOP primaries.

Did you mean to concede they are powerless or was that a slip?

[Life is Golden]

Would you compare active communists today to the horrors of Marxist regimes of the 20th Century?

Let's say, for the sake of argument, that I simply hate the Nazis who went to Charlottesville for what they are (powerless). Are you telling me that I shouldn't be critical of them?

Also, I changed my name to Establishment during the GOP primaries.

Then I guess what you do is what some call virtue signaling. Because the only people I hear equating the 8,000 White Nationalists in the USA with genocidal WWII Nazis are bed-wetting leftists. Criticizing them doesn't require making such an absurd equivalency.

[Life is Golden]

No you stupid cunt.

Aw, looks like I hit a nerve, or rather, the nail on the head.

[Minister of Truth]

Did you mean to concede they are powerless or was that a slip?

Who was claiming that they have power? The real point is that Nazis had the gall to show their faces in public, and that others defended them wanting to keep a statue honoring an enemy general in public. And, no one seems to care that they murdered someone.

[Darth Omar]

Who was claiming that they have power? The real point is that Nazis had the gall to show their faces in public, and that others defended them wanting to keep a statue honoring an enemy general in public. And, no one seems to care that they murdered someone.

Well, the left claims Trump needs them.

You're position on this is indistinguishable from the hardcore left. I say 'hardcore' because the left is solidly behind the erstwhile Nazis, Antifa. That makes the left as harcare as Antifa.

Since you're so familiar with the Nazis, I'm sure you recall how Hitler's thugs would shut down the opposition with violence.

Say what you will about the Charlottesville Nazis, but they weren't there to shut anyone down. In fact, one could argue they got out-Nazi'd by Antifa.

You don't allow that the opposing argument is legitimate. Some people [a majority if you believe the polls] believe the statues have at least some historical import. Just because someone holds that opinion doesn't make them a Nazi sympathizer.

And if you think this country has that many Nazi sympathizers, I feel bad for you. I'd consider moving somewhere else, in fact.

[christiefan915]

Here's the deal on that.

I follow European news on Twitter. I've got a socially liberal Czech buddy I talk to who you'd easily mistake for a 'white nationalist' over here. I joke with her about it. People over there are weary of the 'template response' from their politicians every time an Islamist goes on a murderous rampage in their streets.

Though Trump didn't have his facts right, they are understandably hungry for a little more fire in the belly when it comes to their leaders response.

Europe is ahead of us.

He "didn't have his facts right" is a nice way of covering up that he's a congenital liar. I expect more of the president, any president. I am tired to the bone of having to source all of trump's comments and then find that 90% or more of them are outright lies. I know it, you know it. The Dems know it, the GOP knows it.

He can bash Islamist terrorism any way he wants as long as he's being truthful. Truth isn't enough for trump even if he knows it. He lives for throwing gas on the fire.

[Cancel 2020.1]

He "didn't have his facts right" is a nice way of covering up that he's a congenital liar. I expect more of the president, any president. I am tired to the bone of having to source all of trump's comments and then find that 90% or more of them are outright lies. I know it, you know it. The Dems know it, the GOP knows it.

He can bash Islamist terrorism any way he wants as long as he's being truthful. Truth isn't enough for trump even if he knows it. He lives for throwing gas on the fire.

The bolded is spot on. It's funny to hear his supporters gloss over that. Anatta said that Trump is "sloppy with his facts."

Dude is a textbook pathological liar. It's an art form for him. "The Art of the Lie."

[evince]

The bolded is spot on. It's funny to hear his supporters gloss over that. Anatta said that Trump is "sloppy with his facts."

Dude is a textbook pathological liar. It's an art form for him. "The Art of the Lie."

and never forget you bought some of those lies about hillary

[anatta]

The bolded is spot on. It's funny to hear his supporters gloss over that. Anatta said that Trump is "sloppy with his facts."

Dude is a textbook pathological liar. It's an art form for him. "The Art of the Lie."

he is sloppy.his language is sloppy.
For you and fake news consumers like you it's enough that you ONLY dwell on that
while NEVER addressing the SOLID ideas behind MAGA.
This isn't an attack on you personally -more an attack at how we always look at politicians with a "gotcha" prism

[christiefan915]

Well, the left claims Trump needs them.

You're position on this is indistinguishable from the hardcore left. I say 'hardcore' because the left is solidly behind the erstwhile Nazis, Antifa. That makes the left as harcare as Antifa.

Since you're so familiar with the Nazis, I'm sure you recall how Hitler's thugs would shut down the opposition with violence.

Say what you will about the Charlottesville Nazis, but they weren't there to shut anyone down. In fact, one could argue they got out-Nazi'd by Antifa.

You don't allow that the opposing argument is legitimate. Some people [a majority if you believe the polls] believe the statues have at least some historical import. Just because someone holds that opinion doesn't make them a Nazi sympathizer.

And if you think this country has that many Nazi sympathizers, I feel bad for you. I'd consider moving somewhere else, in fact.

You and others keep focusing on the violence between the two groups. I am focusing on their ideologies. For some reason that's getting lost in the noise. There is nothing decent and respectable about neo-Nazis. That's why antifa will always have the higher ground.

Again I condemn violence by antifa or any group because I don't think violence is the answer to anything. But it's a specious argument to put both groups on the same level.

[evince]

one is allowed to protect themselves


that is what Antifa does


THEY SAVED LIVES THAT DAY

[evince]

https://m.dailykos.com/stories/2017/...etail=facebook



Rev. Seth Wispelwey: "I am a pastor in Charlottesville, and antifa saved my life twice on Saturday."
Aug 16, 2017

[Cancel 2020.1]

and never forget you bought some of those lies about hillary

That is actually a lie, desh.

[Cancel 2020.1]

he is sloppy.his language is sloppy.
For you and fake news consumers like you it's enough that you ONLY dwell on that
while NEVER addressing the SOLID ideas behind MAGA.
This isn't an attack on you personally -more an attack at how we always look at politicians with a "gotcha" prism

Anatta, we're talking about someone who literally has no credibility. And he brought that on himself. If there is a topic or issue, I'd bet good money that Trump has lied about it at some point. It's what he does.

Who cares about the solid ideas behind MAGA when Trump will say literally anything? Why do you still trust what he says...why did you ever?

[evince]

That is actually a lie, desh.

you repeated lies about hillary and claimed you were libertarian remember