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Why Some U.S. Ex-Spies Don't Buy the Russia Story
In 2003, when a number of former intelligence professionals formed a group to protest the way intelligence was bent to accuse Iraq of producing weapons of mass destruction, New York Times columnist Nicholas Kristof wrote a sympathetic column quoting the group's members. In 2017, you won't read about this same group's latest campaign in the big U.S. newspapers.
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The Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS) have been investigating the now conventional wisdom that last year's leaks of Democratic National Committee files were the result of Russian hacks. What they found instead is evidence to the contrary.
VIPS instead surmises that, after WikiLeaks' Julian Assange announced on June 12, 2016 his intention to publish Hillary Clinton-related emails, the DNC rushed to fabricate evidence that it had been hacked by Russia to defuse any potential WikiLeaks disclosures. To this end, the theory goes, the DNC used the Guccifer 2.0 online persona to release mostly harmless DNC data.
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The VIPS theory relies on forensic findings by independent researchers who go by the pseudonyms "Forensicator" and "Adam Carter." The former found that 1,976 MB of Guccifer's files were copied from a DNC server on July 5 in just87 seconds, implying a transfer rate of 22.6 megabytes per second -- or, converted to a measure most people use, about 180 megabits per second, a speed not commonly available from U.S. internet providers. Downloading such files this quickly over the internet, especially over a VPN (most hackers would use one), would have been all but impossible because the network infrastructure through which the traffic would have to pass would further slow the traffic. However, as Forensicator has pointed out, the files could have been copied to a thumb drive -- something only an insider could have done -- at about that speed.
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Adam Carter, the pseudonym for the other analyst, showed that the content of the Guccifer files was at some point cut and pasted into Microsoft Word templates that used the Russian language
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Having been burned so badly on the Iraq intelligence claims in 2003, you would think major U.S. media would apply more journalistic skepticism and rigor here, even if, to the broader public, Russia is a faraway power to which it's easy to ascribe pretty much any nefarious activity. Instead, these outlets seem more intent on noting Putin's bare-chested physique and accusing him of further meddling on social networks.
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-08-10/why-some-u-s-ex-spies-don-t-buy-the-russia-story
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Summary for you idiots: The DNC server, the one which the DNC won't let the FBI even look at, had data transferred off of it at a rate of 180 megabits per second. This transfer rate is pretty much impossible over the internet. This means the data was not hacked by some external hacker but instead taken by someone INTERNALLY.
This whole thing is a fucking lie as I have said since the beginning. The deep state is FUCKING LYING about the russian hacking. Just like the intelligence agencies lied about the Iraq war.
VIPS includes former National Security Agency staffers with considerable technical expertise, such as William Binney, the agency's former technical director for world geopolitical and military analysis, and Edward Loomis Jr., former technical director for the office of signals processing, as well as other ex-intelligence officers with impressive credentials.
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This is literally the same group that was exposing lies about WMD back in 2003. The same exact group.
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anatta (08-10-2017)
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Having been burned so badly on the Iraq intelligence claims in 2003, you would think major U.S. media would
apply more journalistic skepticism and rigor here,
even if, to the broader public, Russia is a faraway power to which it's easy to ascribe pretty much any nefarious activity.
Instead, these outlets seem more intent on noting Putin's bare-chested physique and accusing him of further meddling on social networks.
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Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS)
VIPS includes former National Security Agency staffers with considerable technical expertise, such as William Binney, the agency's former technical director for world geopolitical and military analysis, and Edward Loomis Jr., former technical director for the office of signals processing, as well as other ex-intelligence officers with impressive credentials.
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so it was an internal download to a thumb drive, and passed on as such to Wiki.
(and all the while that Deep State bullshit about "Russian cutouts").....
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North Korea undermines it all. Russia is about Putin. Putin is about himself and money. Putin will give North Korea technology to undermine the United States. Fuck ALL that. It is the game.
You all play it i and have no clue. As a Crow. I see death.
You enable it.
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Russiaphobic and reactive. Putin/Russia doesn't want a nuclear Korean peninsula
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Facing the twin dangers of domestic instability and foreign attack, the North has devised a strategy for survival that depends (somewhat counterintuitively) on provoking the South and the United States.
The North will do something that it knows will infuriate its enemies, like testing an intercontinental ballistic missile or shelling a South Korean military base. This limit-pushing behavior is designed to show that the North is willing to escalate aggressively in the event of any kind of action from Washington or Seoul that threatens the regime, thus deterring them from making even the slightest move to undermine the Kim regime. It also sends a signal to the North Korean people that they’re constantly under threat from foreign invasions, and that they need to support their government unconditionally to survive as a nation.
The problem is that this strategy is inherently unstable. There’s always a risk that one of these manufactured crises spirals out of control, leading to a conflict that no one really wants. This is especially risky because the North Korean government is deeply insular:
Washington doesn’t have the kind of direct line of communication with the North that it had with the Soviet Union during the height of the Cold War, which was vital in preventing standoffs like the Cuban Missile Crisis from escalating.
Maybe the Trump administration responds too aggressively to a provocation, prompting North Korean retaliation. Maybe North Korea thinks it’s about to be invaded by the South, leading it to mount a preemptive strike. Maybe South Korea misreads the North’s signals and thinks it is about to launch a war, causing the South to do something wild like try to assassinate Kim Jong Un. That isn’t totally hypothetical: Jeffrey Lewis, director of the East Asia Nonproliferation Program at the Middlebury Institute of International Studies and a noted North Korean expert, thinks killing Kim is a real option that the South is considering if it thinks war is likely (mainly to head off a nuclear strike before it starts).
These scenarios illustrate that a basic truth: A situation where one side is constantly provoking the other is extremely volatile.
https://www.vox.com/world/2017/7/5/1...war-casualties
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No, they want an unstable world power. Period. You missed that. I did not.
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And the sot returns, drunk as usual.
cancel2 2022 (08-11-2017)
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I want to humbly speak to your level.
Below a degenerate advertises an aunt.
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crow. you can't discuss Russian behaviors with such simplicity
Do they want an unstable Donbass? Only for now -because they have to rely on the eastern UK as their buffer.
Otherwise they want Uk back stable . They seized Crimea for Sevastopol access
NATO expansion has brought about such horrific amount of firepower lately reinforced by
Obama's "European Reassurance Initiative" - that any state involved would crave stability if only for self survival
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I can. Stability is based on democracy. right or wrong, it's not perfect, it's about people. . Plutocracy is mafia. What's Putins interest, it's not the 'power' of the people, it's mafia (Money). That you miss that is insightful for others, not you, you are lost. You are neither Buddhist or spiritual, you are reactive. You NEED more time to understand detachment. Or You will too be eaten by Crows.
Nature of things.
Trump don't care, Putin don't care, parties don't care.
Good luck.
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i love how when the russian story is crumbling at your feet you now and try to distract with north korea. Very convenient.
It was the clintons that gave nuke secrets to china, who then passed them to NK, not putin. Clinton.
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jeeze crow..now you're talking like a neocon about how democracy is an end to it's self.
Libya wasn't a democracy and was damn stable until we decided to blow it up.
US/Russian relations do not directly depend on how Putin hold power. He holds power is all that matters
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