Thoughts on Pro Football Hall of Fame

**PostmodernProphet** · 10-09-2017, 06:16 AM

How about a permanent ban on including any knee benders........

**Mott the Hoople** · 10-10-2017, 11:56 AM

Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet

How about a permanent ban on including any knee benders........

Like Tim Tebow?

**Русский агент** · 10-10-2017, 02:49 PM

Originally Posted by Mott the Hoople

Like Tim Tebow?

You only like kneelers who do it to disrespect America, Trump, white people, and the police?

**CFM** · 10-13-2017, 10:10 AM

Originally Posted by Mott the Hoople

Like Tim Tebow?

What's disrespectful about WHY Tebow does it?

**Mott the Hoople** · 10-13-2017, 01:28 PM

Originally Posted by CFM

What's disrespectful about WHY Tebow does it?

I didn't say it was. What's disrespectful about protesting cops killing people?

**CFM** · 10-13-2017, 01:33 PM

Originally Posted by Mott the Hoople

I didn't say it was. What's disrespectful about protesting cops killing people?

You mean like when pro football players protested the shooting of Michael Brown by coming out with their hands up despite forensic experts proving Brown didn't have his hands up when he was shot?

What's disrespectful is a pubic haired, 2nd rate quarterback pushing a false premise.

**Minister of Truth** · 10-13-2017, 04:39 PM

Originally Posted by Mott the Hoople

I didn't say it was. What's disrespectful about protesting cops killing people?

Well, it's rather silly when the guys, they are shooting at are violent criminals, such as Michael Brown. If people want fewer shootings of drug dealers, gangsters, and so forth, then they need to work at cleaning up poor communities (urban, rural, and the lovely section eight neighborhoods in the suburbs).

**Mott the Hoople** · 10-13-2017, 05:57 PM

Originally Posted by CFM

You mean like when pro football players protested the shooting of Michael Brown by coming out with their hands up despite forensic experts proving Brown didn't have his hands up when he was shot?

What's disrespectful is a pubic haired, 2nd rate quarterback pushing a false premise.

Well that’s your point of view. Isn’t naive to believe everyone should feel as you do? I mean that’s the problem with politicizing the whole protest thing. If instead of politicizing their opposition to the protest if everyone’s response to Kapernick had been to go “meh it’s a free country.” And ignored him it would have died with Kapernicks career. No one would be talking about and the protests would be dead.

But by politicizing it it has grown into a big divisive political football and the protests have gotten far more attention and airtime then it would have then if people would have ignored Kapernick and thus have unwittingly promoted his agenda far more than Kapernick could have done by himself by far. So by politicizing the protest it has played into the hands of the protests.

For me personally I don’t give a rats ass on either side of the issue cause I want to watch a ball game and not argue politics. If i wanted to argue politics I’d log onto JPP. Personally I wish both sides would shut the hell up and let me enjoy the game.

**Mott the Hoople** · 10-13-2017, 06:12 PM

Originally Posted by Threedee

Well, it's rather silly when the guys, they are shooting at are violent criminals, such as Michael Brown. If people want fewer shootings of drug dealers, gangsters, and so forth, then they need to work at cleaning up poor communities (urban, rural, and the lovely section eight neighborhoods in the suburbs).

Except their not all Michael Browns.

What about Keith Lemont? Philando Castile? Sam DuBose? Walter Scott? Etc,. None of them were violent criminals, drug dealers or gang bangers or had committed a criminal act worthy of being shot. In fact of the most publicized incidents only Brown, who wasn’t exactly a violent criminal either, stands out for his criminal activity. So why single out blacks? Ever been to the hillbilly part of town? As violent and crime ridden as any poor black neighborhood.

**Minister of Truth** · 10-13-2017, 07:43 PM

Originally Posted by Mott the Hoople

Except their not all Michael Browns.

What about Keith Lemont? Philando Castile? Sam DuBose? Walter Scott? Etc,. None of them were violent criminals, drug dealers or gang bangers or had committed a criminal act worthy of being shot. In fact of the most publicized incidents only Brown, who wasn’t exactly a violent criminal either, stands out for his criminal activity. So why single out blacks? Ever been to the hillbilly part of town? As violent and crime ridden as any poor black neighborhood.

I also think that if Bubba and Billy-Bob get shot, it will not make the national news.

**Mott the Hoople** · 10-14-2017, 05:48 AM

Originally Posted by Threedee

I also think that if Bubba and Billy-Bob get shot, it will not make the national news.

It would if they were killed under the same circumstances.

**CFM** · 10-14-2017, 06:03 AM

Originally Posted by Mott the Hoople

Well that’s your point of view. Isn’t naive to believe everyone should feel as you do? I mean that’s the problem with politicizing the whole protest thing. If instead of politicizing their opposition to the protest if everyone’s response to Kapernick had been to go “meh it’s a free country.” And ignored him it would have died with Kapernicks career. No one would be talking about and the protests would be dead.

But by politicizing it it has grown into a big divisive political football and the protests have gotten far more attention and airtime then it would have then if people would have ignored Kapernick and thus have unwittingly promoted his agenda far more than Kapernick could have done by himself by far. So by politicizing the protest it has played into the hands of the protests.

For me personally I don’t give a rats ass on either side of the issue cause I want to watch a ball game and not argue politics. If i wanted to argue politics I’d log onto JPP. Personally I wish both sides would shut the hell up and let me enjoy the game.

He didn't have an agenda. He's the typical pubic hair head whiny black.

**Mott the Hoople** · 10-14-2017, 06:07 AM

Originally Posted by CFM

He didn't have an agenda. He's the typical pubic hair head whiny black.

Well at least he’s not a trailer trash redneck. Can’t get any lower than that...unless you’re Irish.

**CFM** · 10-14-2017, 06:17 AM

Originally Posted by Mott the Hoople

Except their not all Michael Browns.

What about Keith Lemont? Philando Castile? Sam DuBose? Walter Scott? Etc,. None of them were violent criminals, drug dealers or gang bangers or had committed a criminal act worthy of being shot. In fact of the most publicized incidents only Brown, who wasn’t exactly a violent criminal either, stands out for his criminal activity. So why single out blacks? Ever been to the hillbilly part of town? As violent and crime ridden as any poor black neighborhood.

"Their"?

Keith Lemont wasn't unarmed. However, as usual, the police just go after black people agitators automatically came up with an excuse for this situation. I believe it was claims that the gun was planted and it wasn't Lemont's.

Philando Castile also wasn't unarmed. The officer in question, not a white guy, was acquitted.

Sam Dubose. Apparently two juries couldn't convict the officer in question, Ray Tensing.

Interesting you didn't mention any white people that were shot by police officers, many of which were unarmed.

**Minister of Truth** · 10-14-2017, 07:22 AM

Originally Posted by Mott the Hoople

It would if they were killed under the same circumstances.

Well, if you get shot under dubious circumstances in a rural town, people will generally associate it with small-town corruption. If you get shot in an urban district, people will associate it with police violence. Due to that narrative, I still feel that Bubba and Billy-Bob would get overlooked by the national media.