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    Quote Originally Posted by blackascoal View Post
    . ANYTHING is better than Trump.
    Hilliary wasn't......

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    Quote Originally Posted by LuvTrump View Post
    No, anything is better than Hillary, as the election proved.
    You beat me to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LuvTrump View Post
    I have not noticed anything of the sort.
    AMERICAN HISTORY ITSELF IS A TESTAMENT TO THE STRENGTH AND RESILIENCE OF AFRICAN PEOPLE. WE, ALONG WITH THE COURGE AND SACRIFICES OF CONSCIOUS WHITE AMERICANS, LIKE VIOLA LIUZZO, EVERETT DIRKSEN, AND MANY OTHERS, HAVE FOUGHT AND DIED TOGETHER FOR OUR FREEDOM, AND FOR OUR SURVIVAL.

    In America, rights are are not determined by what is just, fair, equitable, honest, nor by what Jesus would do. Rights are determined ONLY by what you can DEMAND.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    Hilliary wasn't......
    Clearly. Elections have consequences, don't they?

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackascoal View Post
    You're not listening .. ANYTHING is better than Trump.

    You're free to draw your own conclusions.
    you are massively butthurt over trump. I know your ego took a huge bitchslap last election, and no, you will never recover from it, so I get why you are salty. But again, read between the lines dummy, none of this alliance is even about trump. They were forming these groups before trump as a candidate was even in the works. The neocons were out in the wilderness and now democrats have welcomed them back with open arms and legitimization.


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    Alliance for Securing Democracy: We Need More of This

    I am thrilled to hear that the German Marshall Fund has launched the Alliance for Securing Democracy, which will “develop comprehensive strategies to defend against, deter, and raise the costs on Russian and other actors’ efforts to undermine democracy and democratic institutions.”

    “Finding out what happened in the 2016 election is important. But even more important is ensuring that we as Americans and Europeans are putting in place measures to secure our democracies today and in the future,” said Fly. “The Alliance for Securing Democracy will also engage the private sector, civil society, and members of both U.S. political parties to enlist their support in development and implementation of these defensive and deterrent strategies.”

    The idea is to create a platform and repository of information about Russian political influence activities in the United States and Europe that can be the basis for cooperation and a resource for analysts on both sides of the Atlantic to push back against Russian meddling.

    The project aims to be able to eventually map out Russian disinformation on social networks, cyber-efforts, financial flows, broader state-level cooperation and even Russian government support for far-left or far-right parties in other countries.
    “In a perfect world, we would have a national commission that would be looking into exactly what happened, exactly what did the Russians do and what can we do as a nation to defend ourselves going forward and deter Putin from ever doing this again,” Morell told me. “We all know this is not going to happen, so things like the GMF effort are hugely important to fill the gap.”
    http://moreperfectunionpodcast.com/2...-more-of-this/

    I agree with all of that .. as I'm sure that millions of Americans on both sides of the aisle will agree.
    AMERICAN HISTORY ITSELF IS A TESTAMENT TO THE STRENGTH AND RESILIENCE OF AFRICAN PEOPLE. WE, ALONG WITH THE COURGE AND SACRIFICES OF CONSCIOUS WHITE AMERICANS, LIKE VIOLA LIUZZO, EVERETT DIRKSEN, AND MANY OTHERS, HAVE FOUGHT AND DIED TOGETHER FOR OUR FREEDOM, AND FOR OUR SURVIVAL.

    In America, rights are are not determined by what is just, fair, equitable, honest, nor by what Jesus would do. Rights are determined ONLY by what you can DEMAND.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Christ Puncher View Post
    you are massively butthurt over trump. I know your ego took a huge bitchslap last election, and no, you will never recover from it, so I get why you are salty. But again, read between the lines dummy, none of this alliance is even about trump. They were forming these groups before trump as a candidate was even in the works. The neocons were out in the wilderness and now democrats have welcomed them back with open arms and legitimization.
    :0) You are indeed an idiot.
    AMERICAN HISTORY ITSELF IS A TESTAMENT TO THE STRENGTH AND RESILIENCE OF AFRICAN PEOPLE. WE, ALONG WITH THE COURGE AND SACRIFICES OF CONSCIOUS WHITE AMERICANS, LIKE VIOLA LIUZZO, EVERETT DIRKSEN, AND MANY OTHERS, HAVE FOUGHT AND DIED TOGETHER FOR OUR FREEDOM, AND FOR OUR SURVIVAL.

    In America, rights are are not determined by what is just, fair, equitable, honest, nor by what Jesus would do. Rights are determined ONLY by what you can DEMAND.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackascoal View Post
    I have ZERO interest in your or Putin's (same same) thoughts on Russia.

    You don't know what you're talking about, you're simply desperately covering for Trump .. as evidenced by you didn't have such Putin love until Trump gave it to you.

    .. and in case you haven't noticed, Russia is a winning argument for democrats.
    Poll: Just 6% Of Americans Say Russia Story Is 'Important'

    Despite deluge from MSM, nobody cares


    The question posed to those surveyed was "Which of the following do you see as the most important issue facing the country right now?"

    So, 79% said, "Not Russia."

    Just 6% said Russia — despite the nonstop coverage from the mainstream media on unsubstantiated allegations that Trump and his campaign team colluded with Vladimir Putin to swing the 2016 election Trump's way.

    Nobody cares. In fact, the Russia relationship is just 2 points above "Other" and the combined "None of these" and "Not sure." As one-time adviser Van Jones called it, the Russia story is a real "nothingburger."


    http://www.dailywire.com/news/18691/...nt-joseph-curl


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    Quote Originally Posted by The Christ Puncher View Post
    Poll: Just 6% Of Americans Say Russia Story Is 'Important'

    Despite deluge from MSM, nobody cares




    http://www.dailywire.com/news/18691/...nt-joseph-curl


    Majority Of Americans Believe Trump Acted Either Illegally Or Unethically With Russia
    http://www.npr.org/2017/07/06/535626...different-tint

    New poll: 54% of Americans think Trump’s dealings with Russia were unethical or illegal
    http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/...hical-illegal/

    After 2016 campaign, more Americans consider Russia a threat: Reuters/Ipsos poll
    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-us...-idUSKBN14X2IF

    Americans Consider Russia as Greatest Threat: Survey
    http://www.news18.com/news/world/ame...y-1381635.html

    NEED MORE .. there's lots of it. ;0)
    AMERICAN HISTORY ITSELF IS A TESTAMENT TO THE STRENGTH AND RESILIENCE OF AFRICAN PEOPLE. WE, ALONG WITH THE COURGE AND SACRIFICES OF CONSCIOUS WHITE AMERICANS, LIKE VIOLA LIUZZO, EVERETT DIRKSEN, AND MANY OTHERS, HAVE FOUGHT AND DIED TOGETHER FOR OUR FREEDOM, AND FOR OUR SURVIVAL.

    In America, rights are are not determined by what is just, fair, equitable, honest, nor by what Jesus would do. Rights are determined ONLY by what you can DEMAND.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackascoal View Post
    Alliance for Securing Democracy: We Need More of This

    I am thrilled to hear that the German Marshall Fund has launched the Alliance for Securing Democracy, which will “develop comprehensive strategies to defend against, deter, and raise the costs on Russian and other actors’ efforts to undermine democracy and democratic institutions.”

    “Finding out what happened in the 2016 election is important. But even more important is ensuring that we as Americans and Europeans are putting in place measures to secure our democracies today and in the future,” said Fly. “The Alliance for Securing Democracy will also engage the private sector, civil society, and members of both U.S. political parties to enlist their support in development and implementation of these defensive and deterrent strategies.”

    The idea is to create a platform and repository of information about Russian political influence activities in the United States and Europe that can be the basis for cooperation and a resource for analysts on both sides of the Atlantic to push back against Russian meddling.

    The project aims to be able to eventually map out Russian disinformation on social networks, cyber-efforts, financial flows, broader state-level cooperation and even Russian government support for far-left or far-right parties in other countries.
    “In a perfect world, we would have a national commission that would be looking into exactly what happened, exactly what did the Russians do and what can we do as a nation to defend ourselves going forward and deter Putin from ever doing this again,” Morell told me. “We all know this is not going to happen, so things like the GMF effort are hugely important to fill the gap.”
    http://moreperfectunionpodcast.com/2...-more-of-this/

    I agree with all of that .. as I'm sure that millions of Americans on both sides of the aisle will agree.
    you are buying into the surface hype, and not looking at the currents below it.

    working as Rubio’s foreign policy adviser, Fly was the executive director of “the Foreign Policy Initiative,” a group founded by Kristol along with two other leading neocons, Robert Kagan and Dan Senor, who was previously the chief spokesman for the Coalition Provisional Authority in Iraq. That group is devoted to standard neocon agitprop, demanding “a renewed commitment to American leadership” on the ground that “the United States remains the world’s indispensable nation.” In sum, as Vox’s Dylan Matthews put it during the 2016 campaign, “If you want a foreign policy adviser with strong ties to the neocon world, it’s hard to do better than Fly.”
    Democrats’ new partner Jamie Fly spent 2010 working in tandem with Bill Kristol urging military action — i.e., aggressive war — against Iran.
    ^ "renewed commitment to American leadership on the ground" is interventionism

    Democrat, Laura Rosenberger, served as a foreign policy adviser for Hillary Clinton’s 2016 presidential campaign and chief of staff to two Obama national security officials.
    ^ there cannot be a worse pedigree then this

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    you are buying into the surface hype, and not looking at the currents below it.

    ^ "renewed commitment to American leadership on the ground" is interventionism

    ^ there cannot be a worse pedigree then this
    COMPLETELY uninterested in your love for Putin.

    This is an international effort to protect democracy .. which obviously you have no interest in.
    AMERICAN HISTORY ITSELF IS A TESTAMENT TO THE STRENGTH AND RESILIENCE OF AFRICAN PEOPLE. WE, ALONG WITH THE COURGE AND SACRIFICES OF CONSCIOUS WHITE AMERICANS, LIKE VIOLA LIUZZO, EVERETT DIRKSEN, AND MANY OTHERS, HAVE FOUGHT AND DIED TOGETHER FOR OUR FREEDOM, AND FOR OUR SURVIVAL.

    In America, rights are are not determined by what is just, fair, equitable, honest, nor by what Jesus would do. Rights are determined ONLY by what you can DEMAND.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackascoal View Post


    Majority Of Americans Believe Trump Acted Either Illegally Or Unethically With Russia
    http://www.npr.org/2017/07/06/535626...different-tint

    New poll: 54% of Americans think Trump’s dealings with Russia were unethical or illegal
    http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/...hical-illegal/

    After 2016 campaign, more Americans consider Russia a threat: Reuters/Ipsos poll
    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-us...-idUSKBN14X2IF

    Americans Consider Russia as Greatest Threat: Survey
    http://www.news18.com/news/world/ame...y-1381635.html

    NEED MORE .. there's lots of it. ;0)
    some of our polls are old as shit

    what americans think, and what they actually care about, are very different things. Americans don't care. And eventually once the fake news is over they will also see trump in the clear as well.


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    Quote Originally Posted by blackascoal View Post


    Majority Of Americans Believe Trump Acted Either Illegally Or Unethically With Russia
    http://www.npr.org/2017/07/06/535626...different-tint

    New poll: 54% of Americans think Trump’s dealings with Russia were unethical or illegal
    http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/...hical-illegal/

    After 2016 campaign, more Americans consider Russia a threat: Reuters/Ipsos poll
    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-us...-idUSKBN14X2IF

    Americans Consider Russia as Greatest Threat: Survey
    http://www.news18.com/news/world/ame...y-1381635.html

    NEED MORE .. there's lots of it. ;0)
    since when do what Americans think have any sway? Americans are Sheeple -you've said so yourself.

    Consider the Russiaphobia being pumped out 24/7 on CNN/Fake news/etc. -
    what else are ignorant Americans who couldn't find the Ukraine on a map supposed to think?

    Do you remember the MS press coverage of Libya?
    all the coverage was how glorious and humanitarian our interventionism was.
    Why even post such tripe as "what Americans think" when they are being ginned up for (cold) war?

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackascoal View Post
    COMPLETELY uninterested in your love for Putin.

    This is an international effort to protect democracy .. which obviously you have no interest in.
    lol you are a neocon warmongering nationbuilder now. When do you want to invade russia you chump? What a sellout you are. How do you look at yourself in the mirror?


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    Quote Originally Posted by blackascoal View Post
    COMPLETELY uninterested in your love for Putin.

    This is an international effort to protect democracy .. which obviously you have no interest in.
    man you need to take the red pill. you are lost in a partisan fog with Russiaphobia as a chaser.

    When you ad hom about "my love for Putin" and do not even see the neocon interventionism growing
    in this morass of derangement -suckling onto your Democratic Party..I'm afraid you are lost good brother.
    Kissinger: “demonization of Vladimir Putin is not a policy; it is an alibi for the absence of one.”
    ________

    Cold War 2.0 Russia hysteria is turning people’s brains into guacamole.
    We’ve got to find a way to snap out of the propaganda trance
    ________

    Buddha: "trust the person who seeks truth and mistrust the person who claims he has found it "
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