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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    I like a huge government that leans hard on God fearing American gothic, sucking them dry, taking the farm upon death and diverting the monies to godless, zoot suit wearing crack addicts and hussies in the big sin filled cities. Now there's a meme for ya!
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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    quit pretending a big country cant have a big governement idiots

    the people of America dont agree with your idiot meme


    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


    A lie doesn't become the truth, wrong doesn't become right, and evil doesn't become good just because it is accepted by a majority.
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    Unless you just can't stand the idea of "ni**ers" teaching white kids.


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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    prove that the democratic party hates efficient government


    Its crap
    'Efficient government' is an oxymoron.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
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    I consider myself a progressive in many ways (and I'm sure many on here consider me the same way) - but I have always contended that you can advance progressive ideals and still advocate for small government and lower taxes, and that these are not mutually exclusive concepts.

    It bums me out to see progressives & liberals actually celebrate the idea of bigger government and higher taxes, but I think many on the left have become that way. Desh is the extreme example of that. Our government is incredibly bloated and inefficient. I was in my glory during the Clinton years when he publicly called for "smaller, smarter government," and Gore was overseeing an initiative called "reinventing government" which really looked at the bigger picture on the way programs and agencies are run. The latter was making real headway in eliminating waste & improving efficiencies, but was unfortunately abandoned.

    And the GOP - my goodness. The one silver lining I always consider when they're in power is that MAYBE they'll curb spending intelligently - but do they ever love to spend.
    You're either a liar, a dumbass, or some combination of both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    I went from a poor kid who had to suppliment my parents income after leaving home to an adult with two homes and a secure retirement becuase of well managed debt.

    dont be an idiot
    Prove it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    It's straight-up embarrassing that a country like America - with the education, talent & resources that we have - cannot run itself efficiently without ringing up trillions of dollars of debt.

    I don't know how anyone can look at that, and see where it's headed, and make any sane argument that things are hunky dory and that this is desirable in any way.
    It is a shame the Obama, someone many called the smartest President ever, rang up as much debt during his time in office as the previous 43 combined.

    It's not desirable but the lefties had no problem with their boy doing it while clamoring about how the previous President was wrong for adding half as much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    you prove it every time you post
    Prove you did what you say you did for your parents. Link?

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    The key point about governments is that, even under current conditions, we have a hand in electing them, whereas private business gives power to unelected thieves, answerable to no-one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iolo View Post
    The key point about governments is that, even under current conditions, we have a hand in electing them, whereas private business gives power to unelected thieves, answerable to no-one.
    Not true, up until this point, the State Media has decided who will be elected, and most gov't officials are appointed

    Private business owners are answerable to the gov't, consumers, their employees, and their advertisers.
    "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man."
    — Joe Biden on Obama.

    Socialism is just the modern word for monarchy.

    D.C. has become a Guild System with an hierarchy and line of accession much like the Royal Court or priestly classes.

    Private citizens are perfectly able of doing a better job without "apprenticing".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    Not true, up until this point, the State Media has decided who will be elected, and most gov't officials are appointed

    Private business owners are answerable to the gov't, consumers, their employees, and their advertisers.
    WE HAVE A CORPORATE MEDIA DICK BAG

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    WE HAVE A CORPORATE MEDIA DICK BAG
    Oooooh ... so that's why you worship them and believe every word they say.
    "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man."
    — Joe Biden on Obama.

    Socialism is just the modern word for monarchy.

    D.C. has become a Guild System with an hierarchy and line of accession much like the Royal Court or priestly classes.

    Private citizens are perfectly able of doing a better job without "apprenticing".

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    idiot


    corporate


    you want corporations to run everything remember
    Quote me and link
    "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man."
    — Joe Biden on Obama.

    Socialism is just the modern word for monarchy.

    D.C. has become a Guild System with an hierarchy and line of accession much like the Royal Court or priestly classes.

    Private citizens are perfectly able of doing a better job without "apprenticing".

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