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    Pandoras Box

    Democrats have opened Pandoras box with their Russia narrative. Earlier republicans would have already fallen all over themselves in apology. They would have prostrated themselves at the altar of biased fake media in the hopes that they would be spared the wrath of CNN and MSNBC. We are not the previous generation of Republicans are we? If they hit us we hit back twice as hard. If CNN and MSNBC throw their hat in the ring for the Democrats then we marginalize them and diminish their power. The Democrats want to investigate Russia collusion so we should oblige them and investigate Russian collusion. The Trump administration has already started on this by requesting investigations on who funds certain environmentalist groups. That is not enough. We have to expand this to others. As Hillary Clinton would say after the last week in Haiti "Let the bodies hit the floor"

    Environmentalists

    As mentioned the Trump administration is looking into this already. The Russian economy is based on oil and natural gas. The higher the price for these goods the better the Russian economy does. Certain environmental groups are exerting effort to prevent the US from using fracking and other efforts to produce natural gas. If they are successful this means that there would be a lower available supply of natural gas and the US would not be able to compete with Russia in the Visegrad markets. Pushing the price of gas higher makes the Russian economy stronger and allows them to bully the Eastern European countries.

    We have to look at environmentalists who push for this and see if they are funded by Russia.

    Iran

    The Iran deal gave billions of dollars to Iran and eased sanctions on Iran in exchange they agreed to some inspections they may or may not comply with in the future. This deal has been very beneficial for Iran while it has not been for the US. The primary ally of Russia in the middle east is Iran. Anything that benefits Iran benefits them as well.*

    We must take a look at the people who supported the Iran deal and check for funding from Russia.

    Military

    As everyone knows the US and its NATO allies bordering Russia rely on the US military remaining strong in order to combat the Russian threat. Democrats are mainly against any increase in military spending. We have to check and see if any of them are funded by Russia and are working for a weaker US military.*

    These 3 scenarios are just the start. Illegal immigration advocates could be setting up a situation like the refugee crisis in Europe to weaken America using Russian funds. The Paris treaty gets funds from developed countries like the US and hands it to "developing" countries like Russia. This is an instance where Russia could directly be receiving funds from the US. We have to investigate the people who support that deal for Russian funding.*

    The Democrats want Russian hysteria. We should give them Russian hysteria.
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    "Obama wasn't born here."

    Just a reminder. Spare us the "backlash" talk.

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    Didn't DemocRats actively collude with Russians in 1996 when they helped Yeltsin win?


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    Quote Originally Posted by LuvTrump View Post
    Didn't DemocRats actively collude with Russians in 1996 when they helped Yeltsin win?

    Are you talking about that playbook they found in that German bunker, the one they started implementing in the '50s?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tsuke View Post
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    Pandoras Box

    Democrats have opened Pandoras box with their Russia narrative. Earlier republicans would have already fallen all over themselves in apology. They would have prostrated themselves at the altar of biased fake media in the hopes that they would be spared the wrath of CNN and MSNBC. We are not the previous generation of Republicans are we? If they hit us we hit back twice as hard. If CNN and MSNBC throw their hat in the ring for the Democrats then we marginalize them and diminish their power. The Democrats want to investigate Russia collusion so we should oblige them and investigate Russian collusion. The Trump administration has already started on this by requesting investigations on who funds certain environmentalist groups. That is not enough. We have to expand this to others. As Hillary Clinton would say after the last week in Haiti "Let the bodies hit the floor"

    Environmentalists

    As mentioned the Trump administration is looking into this already. The Russian economy is based on oil and natural gas. The higher the price for these goods the better the Russian economy does. Certain environmental groups are exerting effort to prevent the US from using fracking and other efforts to produce natural gas. If they are successful this means that there would be a lower available supply of natural gas and the US would not be able to compete with Russia in the Visegrad markets. Pushing the price of gas higher makes the Russian economy stronger and allows them to bully the Eastern European countries.

    We have to look at environmentalists who push for this and see if they are funded by Russia.

    Iran

    The Iran deal gave billions of dollars to Iran and eased sanctions on Iran in exchange they agreed to some inspections they may or may not comply with in the future. This deal has been very beneficial for Iran while it has not been for the US. The primary ally of Russia in the middle east is Iran. Anything that benefits Iran benefits them as well.*

    We must take a look at the people who supported the Iran deal and check for funding from Russia.

    Military

    As everyone knows the US and its NATO allies bordering Russia rely on the US military remaining strong in order to combat the Russian threat. Democrats are mainly against any increase in military spending. We have to check and see if any of them are funded by Russia and are working for a weaker US military.*

    These 3 scenarios are just the start. Illegal immigration advocates could be setting up a situation like the refugee crisis in Europe to weaken America using Russian funds. The Paris treaty gets funds from developed countries like the US and hands it to "developing" countries like Russia. This is an instance where Russia could directly be receiving funds from the US. We have to investigate the people who support that deal for Russian funding.*

    The Democrats want Russian hysteria. We should give them Russian hysteria.
    How are you "marginalizing" the media when their ratings have improved during the Trump regime?

    And the environmental thing is bogus, they found one stream of funding into fake environmental groups, what is there to investigate, they already know the details?

    Iran got their money back that the US was holding under sanctions, and even the President's team just confirmed that Iran is following the details of the agreement. The real irony is that conservatives always fail to recognize that the US was only one of eight leading nations in the agreement. With or without, it was going ahead anyway, meaning Iran didn't need the US, continuing sanctions would have meant next to nothing

    And Democrats aren't against military funding, rather unnecessary funding, key is that their looking for efficiency, not votes

    And it isn't "Russian hysteria," rather investigation into Russia's orchestrated espionage effort to sabotage our election system, usually a nation wants to find out how and why an adversary dedicated itself to undermining a foundation to our Democratic system

    You ought to think thru some of these generalized posts you employ, more than often they are just a regurgitation of talk radio rhetoric

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    How are you "marginalizing" the media when their ratings have improved during the Trump regime?
    According to...the media?

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    How are you "marginalizing" the media when their ratings have improved during the Trump regime?

    And the environmental thing is bogus, they found one stream of funding into fake environmental groups, what is there to investigate, they already know the details?

    Iran got their money back that the US was holding under sanctions, and even the President's team just confirmed that Iran is following the details of the agreement. The real irony is that conservatives always fail to recognize that the US was only one of eight leading nations in the agreement. With or without, it was going ahead anyway, meaning Iran didn't need the US, continuing sanctions would have meant next to nothing

    And Democrats aren't against military funding, rather unnecessary funding, key is that their looking for efficiency, not votes

    And it isn't "Russian hysteria," rather investigation into Russia's orchestrated espionage effort to sabotage our election system, usually a nation wants to find out how and why an adversary dedicated itself to undermining a foundation to our Democratic system

    You ought to think thru some of these generalized posts you employ, more than often they are just a regurgitation of talk radio rhetoric
    first off the people who brought up the russian funding environmental groups was clinton and obama but I digress.

    It doesnt matter whether there are other things that the things I mention accomplish if its funded by Russia or at least partly funded by Russia then they are getting something out of it. Let us investigate and see how many environmental groups get any sort of money from Russia.

    After this let us start in on China.

    Let the bodies hit the floor : )

    yes the media is marginalized. Now more than ever half the country dont believe in Cnn/msnbc/wash po/ nyt. They can scream all they want but they are just screaming to the choir.
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    Just listening to the new defense.

    Well, we may have colluded - but collusion isn't illegal!

    I swear, we are right back to debating what the meaning of "is" is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    Just listening to the new defense.

    Well, we may have colluded - but collusion isn't illegal!

    I swear, we are right back to debating what the meaning of "is" is.
    But there was no collusion lol.

    Even if Junior attempted to collude he got nothing from the deal and wasted 20 minutes of his time. I'm amazed that it's still a topic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    Just listening to the new defense.

    Well, we may have colluded - but collusion isn't illegal!

    I swear, we are right back to debating what the meaning of "is" is.
    your saying its collusion because some russians were willing to inform on the supposed illegal things hillary did in Russia.

    For the longest time your argument was based on the steele document which is the supposed illegals things trump did in Russia which some Russians informed steele about.

    lolz

    The difference btw is we deny those things happened while you guys acknowledge 100% you did what was in the email leaks and are just mad it came out.

    Also this entire thing started when trump supposedly asked russia on national tv to look for hillarys emails. Hillarys server was never hacked. She deleted all of it. : )
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    You guys are a joke.

    Jr. knew what he was going to that meeting for, and stated it clearly. "I love it."

    Show me the alternate universe where Hillary or her campaign does that. I swear. What hypocrites.

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    I guess Thingy is saying that if the roles were reversed, the Clinton campaign would have said "thanks but no thanks. As much as we would like to win we just can't take information from a foreign country"

    That's plausible


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    Quote Originally Posted by Teflon Don View Post
    I guess Thingy is saying that if the roles were reversed, the Clinton campaign would have said "thanks but no thanks. As much as we would like to win we just can't take information from a foreign country"

    That's plausible


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    But the roles were reversed. The DNC got information from the Ukrainians that affected the race and helped advance the Ever Ready Bunny Russian narrative that affects the Trump administration to this day.

    That's world class collusion. What Junior attempted, is a joke by comparison. Like I said, I'm amazed we're still talking about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teflon Don View Post
    I guess Thingy is saying that if the roles were reversed, the Clinton campaign would have said "thanks but no thanks. As much as we would like to win we just can't take information from a foreign country"

    That's plausible


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    I didn't vote for Hill.

    Trump was supposed to "drain the swamp." Remember?

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