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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    one man's data is another boy's random crap from Google.......
    Random headlines vs BLS....

    You gonna need much time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    so if in December of 2016 manufacturing employment is lower than it was in January of 2009 can you tell me again about all the manufacturing jobs that Obama created......
    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/MANEMP
    You enabled, with 2 enthusiastic votes, the disappearance of 4.7 million manufacturing jobs (5.5 million when the Wages of Supply Side were fully paid)...

    Under Obama the net loss was 3000.....measured from the nadir of the Legacy of Scrub it was a gain of 90,000.


    Avoid anything involving numbers......you're an idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackvegetable View Post
    You enabled, with 2 enthusiastic votes, the disappearance of 4.7 million manufacturing jobs (5.5 million when the Wages of Supply Side were fully paid)...

    Under Obama the net loss was 3000.....measured from the nadir of the Legacy of Scrub it was a gain of 90,000.


    Avoid anything involving numbers......you're an idiot.
    Congratulations on qualifying for a charter. That sounds like quite an accomplishment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackvegetable View Post
    Random headlines vs BLS....

    You gonna need much time?
    random articles citing data.....its just that you only read the headlines......of course to be fair, you didn't actually read the BLS data either.....otherwise you would already be aware it contradicted you.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by InstantOn View Post
    Congratulations on qualifying for a charter. That sounds like quite an accomplishment.
    Thank you......it's the next one which is gonna hurt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackvegetable View Post

    Under Obama the net loss was 3000....
    and yet some idiot began this argument by telling us how great demmycrat presidents were.......Trump's added 35,000 since January (your chart)

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    random articles citing data.....its just that you only read the headlines......of course to be fair, you didn't actually read the BLS data either.....otherwise you would already be aware it contradicted you.....
    Sure, Counselor.....tell me how it "contradicts" me..

    And no...Random crap from the innertubes tells you nothing......the excerpt from the lbs release demonstrated, unambiguously, that you don't know what you are talking about....

    Why don't you employ your method to determine the net number of private non-farm jobs generated between Feb 2001 and Feb 2017.......then you and I can calculate the percentage of them gained since Feb 2009....

    Just facts, no "interpretation" necessary.

    Don't bother responding if you can't provide the number.

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    autocorrect turned BLS into "lbs".....an android bug won't let me edit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackvegetable View Post
    Sure, Counselor.....tell me how it "contradicts" me..
    because the debate is over whether Obama, as one of those demmycrat presidents, is better at economics than Republicans........and it shows that despite your bragging about his performance on jobs, he sucked.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackvegetable View Post
    Sure, Counselor.....tell me how it "contradicts" me..

    And no...Random crap from the innertubes tells you nothing......the excerpt from the lbs release demonstrated, unambiguously, that you don't know what you are talking about....

    Why don't you employ your method to determine the net number of private non-farm jobs generated between Feb 2001 and Feb 2017.......then you and I can calculate the percentage of them gained since Feb 2009....
    odd.....most folks would just look at the jobs gained between January 1, 2009 and December 1, 2016....the years a demmycrat was president.......with special attention to the fact that the only gains happened between 2015 and 2016.......the rest of the years only broke even......

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackvegetable View Post
    autocorrect turned BLS into "lbs".....an android bug won't let me edit.
    Don't worry about it. The civilized world has Single Payer health care, and most use kilograms, too.

    I will add my congratulations to you for passing the exam you thought you might fail. I can't count how many of those I experienced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    because the debate is over whether Obama, as one of those demmycrat presidents, is better at economics than Republicans........and it shows that despite your bragging about his performance on jobs, he sucked.......

    "Clinton’s two terms in office (1993-2001) were marked by strong numbers for gross domestic product (GDP) and employment growth and especially for deficit reduction. His overall ranking puts him first among the ten postwar presidents–ahead of Lyndon B. Johnson, Kennedy and Reagan, who were tightly grouped behind the 42nd president and recent autobiographer.

    Postwar Presidencies Ranked By Six Measures Of Economic Performance, Where 1 Is Best. GDP: Gross Domestic Product. Sources: U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis, U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, White House Office of Management and Budget
    President Term Years In Office GDP Rank Real Disposable Personal Income Rank Employment Rank Unemployment Rank Inflation Rank Deficit Reduction Rank Average Rank
    Bill Clinton 1993-2001 8 3 5 2 2 6 1 3.2
    Lyndon B. Johnson November 1963-1969 5.1 1 1 5 3 8 4 3.7
    John F. Kennedy 1961-November 1963 2.9 2 2 8 1 5 6 4.0
    Ronald Reagan 1981-1989 8 5 4 3 4 2 8 4.3
    Gerald R. Ford August 1974-1977 2.4 6 6 6 10 1 2 5.2
    Jimmy Carter 1977-1981 4 4 8 1 5 10 7 5.8
    Harry S. Truman April 1945-1953 7.8 9 9 7 6 3 3 6.2
    Richard M. Nixon 1969-August 1974 5.6 7 3 4 8 9 9 6.7
    Dwight D. Eisenhower 1953-1961 8 8 7 9 9 7 5 7.5
    George H.W. Bush 1989-1993 4 10 10 10 7 4 10 8.5
    To create our rankings we looked at six measures of economic performance–GDP growth, per capita income growth, employment gains, unemployment rate reduction, inflation reduction and federal deficit reduction–for each of the ten postwar presidencies. For each measure we looked at whether the situation improved or got worse, and we ranked the presidents from 1 to 10. We then averaged the ranks to come up with a final score."


    https://www.forbes.com/2004/07/20/cx...residents.html


    with Scrub bringing up the rear, 4 GOP administrations trail the pack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    odd.....most folks would just look at the jobs gained between January 1, 2009 and December 1, 2016....the years a demmycrat was president.......with special attention to the fact that the only gains happened between 2015 and 2016.......the rest of the years only broke even......
    actually, breaking down the employment gains between the two administrations will tell us which of the two did the bulk of the work....

    just post the numbers.....you may do so by year, if you prefer...

    once that, and the math, is done, we can determine if any of what you say above is true...

    please be certain to identify the source of your data.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackvegetable View Post
    "Clinton’s two terms in office (1993-2001) were marked by strong numbers for gross domestic product (GDP) and employment growth and especially for deficit reduction. His overall ranking puts him first among the ten postwar presidents–ahead of Lyndon B. Johnson, Kennedy and Reagan, who were tightly grouped behind the 42nd president and recent autobiographer.

    Postwar Presidencies Ranked By Six Measures Of Economic Performance, Where 1 Is Best. GDP: Gross Domestic Product. Sources: U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis, U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, White House Office of Management and Budget
    President Term Years In Office GDP Rank Real Disposable Personal Income Rank Employment Rank Unemployment Rank Inflation Rank Deficit Reduction Rank Average Rank
    Bill Clinton 1993-2001 8 3 5 2 2 6 1 3.2
    Lyndon B. Johnson November 1963-1969 5.1 1 1 5 3 8 4 3.7
    John F. Kennedy 1961-November 1963 2.9 2 2 8 1 5 6 4.0
    Ronald Reagan 1981-1989 8 5 4 3 4 2 8 4.3
    Gerald R. Ford August 1974-1977 2.4 6 6 6 10 1 2 5.2
    Jimmy Carter 1977-1981 4 4 8 1 5 10 7 5.8
    Harry S. Truman April 1945-1953 7.8 9 9 7 6 3 3 6.2
    Richard M. Nixon 1969-August 1974 5.6 7 3 4 8 9 9 6.7
    Dwight D. Eisenhower 1953-1961 8 8 7 9 9 7 5 7.5
    George H.W. Bush 1989-1993 4 10 10 10 7 4 10 8.5
    To create our rankings we looked at six measures of economic performance–GDP growth, per capita income growth, employment gains, unemployment rate reduction, inflation reduction and federal deficit reduction–for each of the ten postwar presidencies. For each measure we looked at whether the situation improved or got worse, and we ranked the presidents from 1 to 10. We then averaged the ranks to come up with a final score."


    https://www.forbes.com/2004/07/20/cx...residents.html


    with Scrub bringing up the rear, 4 GOP administrations trail the pack.
    I'm sorry, did you think GWB was even listed?.......neither was Obama........if they were, Obama would come in worst on employment and deficits.......as already pointed out, Carter already came in worst under inflation......that's the list that STARTED this argument.......idiot.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaykan View Post
    Don't worry about it. The civilized world has Single Payer health care, and most use kilograms, too.

    I will add my congratulations to you for passing the exam you thought you might fail. I can't count how many of those I experienced.
    I love Mr. Bell and his curves...
    (Ducks and runs).
    Instant may have misunderstood.....I completed all requirements for one last fall, and am awaiting the results of Phase 2 of another.......should I pass 2 more, I'll have 10
    letters I can put next to the 14 in my name.

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