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    Default Harvard desires to eliminate all single gender clubs

    So this would include all fraternities and sororities. I mean how far should freedom of association be allowed to go? I'm curious what board liberals think of this proposal. Do you find single gender groups or clubs discriminatory?




    Harvard committee proposes banning all social clubs; punishing violators



    https://www.thefire.org/breaking-har...ing-violators/




    Harvard’s Steven Pinker on proposal to ban social clubs: ‘This is a terrible recommendation’


    Members of the Harvard University community are reacting to news yesterday that a faculty committee recommends the Ivy League institution eliminate all exclusive social clubs. The ban would effectively shutter any Harvard-connected off-campus clubs, including all fraternities and sororities, by the year 2022 — despite Harvard’s continued promises of unfettered freedom of association for its students.

    In a statement to FIRE, Harvard psychology professor Steven Pinker has detailed his objections to the policy. Among Pinker’s accolades for his groundbreaking work in the fields of psychology, cognitive science, and linguistics, are two Pulitzer Prize nominations and numerous awards from groups like the Royal Institution of Great Britain, the Cognitive Neuroscience Society, and the American Psychological Association. The New York Times bestselling author has been previously dubbed by Time as one of its “100 most influential people in the world,” and last year, he was elected to the National Academy of Sciences. He is also a member of FIRE’s Advisory Council.

    Accordingly, we wanted to bring our readers Pinker’s insightful comments in full:

    This is a terrible recommendation, which is at odds with the ideals of a university.

    A university is an institution with circumscribed responsibilities which engages in a contract with its students. Its main responsibility is to provide them with an education. It is not an arbiter over their lives, 24/7. What they do on their own time is none of the university’s business.

    One of the essential values in higher education is that people can differ in their values, and that these differences can be constructively discussed. Harvard has a right to value mixed-sex venues everywhere, all the time, with no exceptions. If some of its students find value in private, single-sex associations, some of the time, a university is free to argue against, discourage, or even ridicule those choices. But it is not a part of the mandate of a university to impose these values on its students over their objections.

    Universities ought to be places where issues are analyzed, distinctions are made, evidence is evaluated, and policies crafted to attain clearly stated goals. This recommendation is a sledgehammer which doesn’t distinguish between single-sex and other private clubs. It doesn’t target illegal or objectionable behavior such as drunkenness or public disturbances. Nor by any stretch of the imagination could it be seen as an effective, rationally justified, evidence-based policy tailored to reduce sexual assault.

    This illiberal policy can only contribute to the impression in the country at large that elite universities are not dispassionate forums for clarifying values, analyzing problems, and proposing evidence-based solutions, but are institutions determined to impose their ideology and values on a diverse population by brute force.

    We wholeheartedly agree and hope the university will provide the opportunity for a full faculty hearing and vote on the proposal. As we reported yesterday, it remains unclear whether Harvard will permit faculty to formally approve the proposal, or merely register comments.

    FIRE is continuing to seek comment from others at Harvard, including from Harvard administrators.

    We will provide updates as this developing story unfolds.


    https://www.thefire.org/harvards-ste...ecommendation/

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    Cut all their funding and get rid of any tax breaks to these cucked indoctrination centers. They'll fall into line or die.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LuvTrump View Post
    Cut all their funding and get rid of any tax breaks to these cucked indoctrination centers. They'll fall into line or die.
    Harvard has something like a $37 billion endowment the largest of any University in the country. They're not going away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    Harvard has something like a $37 billion endowment the largest of any University in the country. They're not going away.
    Their tax breaks and any government assistance they get can be stopped until they bend the knee, though, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LuvTrump View Post
    Cut all their funding and get rid of any tax breaks to these cucked indoctrination centers. They'll fall into line or die.
    A new standard in Trumptardation...^^^^^^

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    look, sometimes bros just wanna hang with other bros. There is nothing wrong with that. Maybe if you think there is 57 genders and everyone is an attack helicopter and your sex junk is so oh oh oh it doesn't matter as much, but for normal people there is still lots of value in it.


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    And from an article from Campusreform: https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=9436

    A faculty committee wants Harvard University to dramatically ramp up its assault on "unrecognized single-gender social organizations" by eliminating all “fraternities, sororities, and similar organizations” by 2022.
    Emphasis added.

    The school previously sought to crack down on the "discriminatory" social clubs by preventing members from holding leadership positions on campus or qualifying for Rhodes or Marshall scholarships.
    ...the USGSO committee is now suggesting that students who participate in such clubs face suspension, or even expulsion...
    Liberals are just plain, fucking totalitarian with their agenda. I know, I know, not all​ of them.

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