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    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefi...till-collusion

    Conservative commentator Charles Krauthammer says recent revelations make it abundantly clear that the Trump campaign sought to collude with Moscow amid last year's election.

    "The evidence is now shown," Krauthammer wrote in a Thursday column in The Washington Post. "This is not hearsay, not fake news, not unsourced leaks. This is an email chain released by Donald Trump Jr. himself. A British go-between writes that there’s a Russian government effort to help Trump Sr. win the election, and as part of that effort he proposes a meeting with a 'Russian government attorney' possessing damaging information on Hillary Clinton."

    Krauthammer said the meetings between Trump associates and Russian officials, some of which were casual encounters in large groups such as Republican National Convention, were circumstantial evidence at best but failed at first to point to any real crime.

    He called defense of the "incompetent collusion" pathetic, saying that "Trump apologists" have been maintaining for six months that no collusion ever happened and then once evidence surfaced they began saying, "Sure it happened. So what? Everyone does it."

    "It turned out to be incompetent collusion, amateur collusion, comically failed collusion," Krauthammer said. "That does not erase the fact that three top Trump campaign officials were ready to play. It may turn out that they did later collaborate more fruitfully. We don’t know. But even if nothing else is found, the evidence is damning."

    The newly revealed emails showing Trump Jr. setting up a meeting with a Russian lawyer are what changed his view of Trump's team amid probes into possible ties between his campaign and Russia, Krauthammer said Tuesday on Fox News.

    "I defended them, because up until today there was no 'there' there," he said. "Well now there is a 'there.'"

    Krauthammer also recently broke with Trump's attack of "Morning Joe" host Mika Brzezinski's physical appearance, criticizing the tweets on Fox News saying, "presidents don’t talk like this."
    Conservative hero, Charles Krauthammer, admits that Trump colluded with Russia.

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    he's a conservative hero?

    I know he's an influential conservative no question but hero? That's new to me.

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    Get ready, now your going to get a barrage of comments that he is not a conservative and always hated Trump

    Note few though will address the content of the article

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    he's a conservative hero?

    I know he's an influential conservative no question but hero? That's new to me.
    From your perspective .. why didn't Trump Jr contact the FBI when he was contacted by a foreign agent?
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    he's always been a #neverTrump.
    The term collusion means more then taking a meeting -it implies a conspiracy -or at least cooperation on a common goal.
    And that means some kind of quid pro quo, not just I'll show you my work.

    Krauthammer is desperate not to be in a position to upend his long term hostility to Trump

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    he's a conservative hero?

    I know he's an influential conservative no question but hero? That's new to me.
    Pretty much was his role on O'Rielly, the supposed intellectual conservative view

    He is a conservative author, used to be better before his marriage with Fox, but often offers some interesting perspectives, then again, I like Brooks and Will, can take Lowrey, which I'm sure some comservatives are going to tell me aren't conservative

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    He's spot on.

    One of the excuses we've heard since this came to light is 'well, Jr. didn't follow through w/ the collusion.'

    Laughable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    he's always been a #neverTrump.
    The term collusion means more then taking a meeting -it implies a conspiracy -or at least cooperation on a common goal.
    And that means some kind of quid pro quo, not just I'll show you my work.

    Krauthammer is desperate not to be in a position to upend his long term hostility to Trump
    What are you going to do when Tucker Carlson bails on Trump? He inevitably will, because he's a punk who bailed on the neocons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackascoal View Post
    From your perspective .. why didn't Trump Jr contact the FBI when he was contacted by a foreign agent?
    because he's a Trump and he's out for himself and they don't have a sense of country pride that would prevent them from meeting with someone like this

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    Does collusion matter given all the evidence that Trump and Family are in this for the fame and mostly money. The presidency is now a real estate venture, the speeches are only to mollify the followers and give them an empty bag filled they think with promises kept. Even the wall is out already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    What are you going to do when Tucker Carlson bails on Trump? He inevitably will, because he's a punk who bailed on the neocons.
    WTF do I care about Tucker Carlson long term? He's got the Russiaphobes pegged to a T - he's useful here.
    I'm not his fan, I post because he's correct on this,and he's about the only person thinking outside the constrained box of Russiaphobia

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    WTF do I care about Tucker Carlson long term? He's got the Russiaphobes pegged to a T - he's useful here.
    Hey, at least you're honest that you're using people like Trump and Carlson to peddle your pro-Putin agenda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Hey, at least you're honest that you're using people like Trump and Carlson to peddle your pro-Putin agenda.
    The agenda is realpolitik

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    He's spot on.

    One of the excuses we've heard since this came to light is 'well, Jr. didn't follow through w/ the collusion.'

    Laughable.
    The problem is the collusion was laughable lol.

    Even Krauthammer mocked it. And it's equally laughable that, after all the turning-up-every-stone to look for collusion, all the democrats have to show is Junior's amateurish attempt at it.

    It's a joke.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    he's a conservative hero?

    I know he's an influential conservative no question but hero? That's new to me.
    so you are still on the trump train


    it will be fun to rub your nose in this later

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