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Thread: Tucker Carlson Takes on the Russiaphobes / Neocons & assorted Warmongers

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackvegetable View Post
    Anybody who is not a slack jawed imbecile would take a critical look at Tuck-Tuck's premise to determine the merit of his argument....

    Sheep just don't get that.
    the premise of managing a relationship where interests overlap/interact is formalized with the term realpolitik.
    even alliances are based on common interests.

    There are "friendship" based relationship like we have with Great Britain/France ("special relationships)
    but they are the exception to the rule

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackvegetable View Post
    You're quite tender, Snowflake....

    Read on.
    This tender snowflake would snap your neck like a carrot and keep walking. No need to read on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    the premise of managing a relationship where interests overlap/interact is formalized with the term realpolitik.
    even alliances are based on common interests.

    There are "friendship" based relationship like we have with Great Britain/France ("special relationships)
    but they are the exception to the rule
    Exactly.

    Britain and France are basically family, in historical terms lol.

    Followed next by Canada and our European WWII allies [and I suppose Germany since we conquered them]---the rest are just garden variety diplomatic friends.

    Enemy number one is NK, followed by Iran. Russia, since they don't make a habit of threatening to nuke us or chant 'death to America', is rightly regarded as a geopolitical foe.

    Basically, they are a country that competes for hegemony with the US but war isn't on the table. War with Russia isn't even simmering on the stove in the kitchen. A Russian invasion isn't something Putin could pull off even if he felt compelled to try---he would have his a** handed to him.

    Which leaves nukes. But he would need to be insane to go that route, and Putin isn't insane.

    So, what does one do? Try as best you can to get along, counter them diplomatically when necessary---and if they are useful in some form or fashion, by all means use them.

    Russia and the West are both threatened by radical Islam so our interests over lap there. And we both have an interest in solving Syria.

    Let's not be idiots and work with them where we can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Bingo.

    Anyone who ever voted for Bush, defended him, supported invading Iraq, is never, ever, under any circumstances allowed to lecture others about being NeoCons.

    And I do include Hillary Clinton in that category, even though she came to regret the Iraq War.

    The people who are allowed to lecture NeoCons are me, BlackAsCoal, Thing, Cofveve, ChristieFan, Barack Obama, Bernie Sanders, and others who were savvy enough to know beforehand that invading Iraq was going to be one of the stupidest decisions evah.
    I was consistently against the Iraq War, why are always such a whiny sanctimonious arsehole? If you don't believe me then ask Christiefan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    But Hillary changed her mind too, and you still call her an Iraq War Supporter.

    So you have to apply the exact same standard to your hero, Tucker. You are not allowed to cut him slack.

    There are a lot of people of have the credibility and history to be in a position to lecture NeoCons.... Me. Maxine Waters. Barack Obama. BlackAsCoal. Thing. Covfefe. MottTheHoople. ChristieFan.

    Tucker Carlson is not one of the people allowed to lecture NeoCons. I suspect you are not either. Something tells me you either voted for Dumbya, or defended him.
    You are an enormous conceited cockwomble!!

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    Man, do I wish this board was around in 2003, with the same posters.

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    Being against the Iraq War was like being at Woodstock.

    These days, just about everyone was "against the Iraq War."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    Man, do I wish this board was around in 2003, with the same posters.
    Might cause some embarrassment?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corazón View Post
    I was consistently against the Iraq War, why are always such a whiny sanctimonious arsehole? If you don't believe me then ask Christiefan.
    What the fuck makes you think I was talking about you, my belligerent British bumpkin??

    This seems to be a recurring theme: I write something, and some dolt imagines it is somehow all about them.

    Take the chip off your shoulder, you cantankerous cretin. When I am writing something, unless I am responding directly to you, you are never on my mind, nor am I thinking about you.

    The world does not revolve around you, mate!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    What the fuck makes you think I was talking about you, my belligerent British bumpkin??

    This seems to be a recurring theme: I write something, and some rightwing dolt imagines it is somehow all about them.

    Take the chip off your shoulder, you cantankerous cretin. When I am writing something, unless I am responding directly to you, you are never on my mind, nor am I thinking about you.

    The world does not revolve around you, mate!
    Oh do shut the fuck up, you spewed out a list of people and then claimed that anyone not on it didn't have a leg to stand on! You are truly a sanctimonious old sod, everything is so black and white with you, no wonder you like Desh!

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackvegetable View Post
    That's very clever, Dotard.....did you come up with that while waiting for Drudge to refresh?
    no......I read your post and it just sort of jumped out at me......I think it was a gift from God........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    Man, do I wish this board was around in 2003, with the same posters.
    me too......now that we know about Obama we could completely avoid his presidency.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    the premise of managing a relationship where interests overlap/interact is formalized with the term realpolitik.
    even alliances are based on common interests.

    There are "friendship" based relationship like we have with Great Britain/France ("special relationships)
    but they are the exception to the rule
    What you describe is pragmatism.......realpolitik is its amoral cousin.

    There is nothing, per se, wrong with building such relationships...but that is completely different from a nation, under sanctions for violating accepted norms, bribing a political candidate of a coalition nation to lift them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor View Post
    This tender snowflake would snap your neck like a carrot and keep walking. No need to read on.
    I bet that's just the Ensure talking......

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    me too......now that we know about Obama we could completely avoid his presidency.........
    Why would we want to do that?

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