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    Default Kissinger calls Putin-Trump meeting a chance to mend ties

    Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin have an opportunity to mend their countries' ties when they meet next week, former top U.S. diplomat Henry Kissinger said on Friday, a day after he followed up a meeting with the U.S. president by having talks with Putin.

    Expectations that Trump's election would bring a thaw in icy relations between Moscow and Washington have been put on hold, with the White House embroiled in a domestic row over Trump associates' Russia ties.

    The U.S. and Russian leaders are to have their first face-to-face encounter next week at a G20 summit in Hamburg.

    At a previous moment of heightened tension between Moscow and Washington, in the 1960s, Kissinger acted as a back-channel intermediary, passing messages to the leadership of the Soviet Union on behalf of U.S. President Richard Nixon.

    The Kremlin on Friday denied that Kissinger, who is visiting Moscow and met Putin behind closed doors on Thursday, was acting as a go-between this time.

    Speaking at an international affairs conference in Moscow, Kissinger said of the planned Trump-Putin meeting: "I believe that at this moment our two countries have a responsibility, and an opportunity, to make significant progress not just by improving relations, but by improving situations around the world through cooperative efforts."

    "Tensions between Russia and the United States ... have happened often before and they have been overcome often before,"
    Kissinger, 94, said. He did not take questions from reporters at the event.

    Asked if Kissinger was providing a back-channel between the Kremlin and the White House, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said: "He didn't try. That did not happen."

    He said the Kissinger-Putin meeting was strictly private and declined to disclose what the two men talked about.

    n May, Trump granted a White House audience to Kissinger. The U.S. leader said he and Kissinger would talk about Russia, among other issues.

    Speaking at the same Moscow event as Kissinger on Friday, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said that the significance of the planned Putin-Trump Hamburg meeting was that "the abnormal period in our relations when the leaders only speak by telephone will be overcome."

    "Judging by their telephone conversations, they have a desire to get beyond this abnormality and start seeking agreement on specific issues."


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    Kissinger: “demonization of Vladimir Putin is not a policy; it is an alibi for the absence of one.”
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    Fuck Kissinger, anyone who supports him or references him in their sig as a source of wisdom.

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    it's good to see a few adults talking about US/Russian relations..
    The Russians are consistently diplomatic and show a steady willingness to improve relations,
    while DC is self-embroiled in
    *Russia grr grr* John McCain type jingoism

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    The Oliver Stone interviews were revealing of a Putin who wields great power, but does it effortlessly
    and in very good cohesion with his government.

    They must be laughing their asses off in the Kremlin watching us stumble around -unable to govern.
    Stuck on seppuku type politics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    it's good to see a few adults talking about US/Russian relations..
    The Russians are consistently diplomatic and show a steady willingness to improve relations,
    while DC is self-embroiled in
    *Russia grr grr* John McCain type jingoism
    Maybe they can invite Assad and Kim Jong Un and have a strongman orgy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    The Oliver Stone interviews were revealing of a Putin who wields great power, but does it effortlessly
    and in very good cohesion with his government.
    Maybe that's because he controls the media and kills all political opposition.

    They must be laughing their asses off in the Kremlin watching us stumble around -unable to govern.
    Stuck on seppuku type politics.
    I assume you voted for Trump, so that's on you.

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    Oliver Stone's son works for RT.

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    It's not like the first time an American President met Putin, and just as with the prior Administratioms, Putin will play nice and three months later return to his prior behavior

    President Trump could be in trouble, Putin isn't a TV journalist nor DC politician, it's realpolitik with Putin, he ain't "making deals" nor playing to the cameras, an arena Trump has never experienced

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Maybe they can invite Assad and Kim Jong Un and have a strongman orgy.
    oo,"da Russians"
    they are a 2nd rate economic power,hurt by sanctions -yet they outplayed Obama at every move..

    Trump saw a need to reconcile, but the DC/Deep State crowd prefers Russiaphobia.
    Our democracy used to work. Now it's stuck on "resisting". we have played ourselves into immobility

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    Will they plan the invasion, finally lol?
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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    oo,"da Russians"
    they are a 2nd rate economic power,hurt by sanctions -yet they outplayed Obama at every move..

    Trump saw a need to reconcile, but the DC/Deep State crowd prefers Russiaphobia.
    Our democracy used to work. Now it's stuck on "resisting". we have played ourselves into immobility
    You are a broken fucking record with your Deep State nonsense and 'oohhh da Russians'. You're so far up Putin's corrupt, oligarch ass that it's embarrassing even for a Trump supporter. Meanwhile, Russians are making poverty wages. Not because of Obama, but because Putin and his oligarchs have destroyed and pickpocketed the economy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Maybe that's because he controls the media and kills all political opposition.
    but he still works with a diverse government - democracy is only a tool to an end- governing by the peoples wishes.
    He has very high poll ratings and is an effective executive. It used to be we were nimble and able to govern PLUS we had a representative democracy. Now we have a Food Fight democracy
    Kissinger: “demonization of Vladimir Putin is not a policy; it is an alibi for the absence of one.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    oo,"da Russians"
    they are a 2nd rate economic power,hurt by sanctions -yet they outplayed Obama at every move..

    Trump saw a need to reconcile, but the DC/Deep State crowd prefers Russiaphobia.
    Our democracy used to work. Now it's stuck on "resisting". we have played ourselves into immobility
    "Trump saw a need to reconcile," a real estate reality TV star saw something the prior six Administratioms didn't, for real?

    And anytime you see "deep state" in a conservative post you know they are just regurgitating something they heard a fat guy on the radio tell them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    You are a broken fucking record with your Deep State nonsense and 'oohhh da Russians'. You're so far up Putin's corrupt, oligarch ass that it's embarrassing even for a Trump supporter. Meanwhile, Russians are making poverty wages. Not because of Obama, but because Putin and his oligarchs have destroyed and pickpocketed the economy.
    idiot. the Russian economy is extractive.
    It never was diverse.the oligarchs tried to diversify, but lack access to international banking,,

    Putin is anti-corruption. he literally used to go around visiting companies and holding audits,and firing the corrupt.
    You are a hopeless American. Unable to see things as they are. Unwilling to believe someone like "the Russians"
    actually have their shit together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    but he still works with a diverse government - democracy is only a tool to an end- governing by the peoples wishes.
    He has very high poll ratings and is an effective executive. It used to be we were nimble and able to govern PLUS we had a representative democracy. Now we have a Food Fight democracy
    You sound like you hate America or wish to change America into a Russian-style oligarchy/dictatorship where its illegal to be gay, where political dissent is silenced, where the Church/State controlled by a single voice, and where you beg for scraps and live below the poverty line if you're lucky. No wonder you support Trump, you fucking traitor.

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