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    Default Hey, look, the Senate's version of Trumpcare only leads to 22 million Americans

    without health coverage as opposed to the "mean" House version that was projected to cut 23 million, hell, what's a couple two three million

    http://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/26/cbo-t...ment-bill.html

    Hard to believe that these same exact people have had nine years, that is nine years, nine years to work on this, they've told us and promised their supporters it was their number one priority for nine years, and this is the best they can do?

    As is, they can't even pass their own proposals in a legislative body they totally control, the more the GOP takes over Congress the more incompetent Congress becomes

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    without health coverage as opposed to the "mean" House version that was projected to cut 23 million, hell, what's a couple two three million

    http://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/26/cbo-t...ment-bill.html

    Hard to believe that these same exact people have had nine years, that is nine years, nine years to work on this, they've told us and promised their supporters it was their number one priority for nine years, and this is the best they can do?

    As is, they can't even pass their own proposals in a legislative body they totally control, the more the GOP takes over Congress the more incompetent Congress becomes
    So is this 22 million on top to the 30 million that Obamacare did not cover? Or is this 12 million more being covered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor View Post
    So is this 22 million on top to the 30 million that Obamacare did not cover? Or is this 12 million more being covered.
    8 million.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    without health coverage as opposed to the "mean" House version that was projected to cut 23 million, hell, what's a couple two three million

    http://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/26/cbo-t...ment-bill.html

    Hard to believe that these same exact people have had nine years, that is nine years, nine years to work on this, they've told us and promised their supporters it was their number one priority for nine years, and this is the best they can do?

    As is, they can't even pass their own proposals in a legislative body they totally control, the more the GOP takes over Congress the more incompetent Congress becomes
    Only 11 million signed up for Obamacare. Can't lose what'cha never had. There will be likely about 22 million who will never even sign up with the new plan. No one will be "losing" their health care. Get your math right.
    Abortion rights dogma can obscure human reason & harden the human heart so much that the same person who feels
    empathy for animal suffering can lack compassion for unborn children who experience lethal violence and excruciating
    pain in abortion.

    Unborn animals are protected in their nesting places, humans are not. To abort something is to end something
    which has begun. To abort life is to end it.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor View Post
    So is this 22 million on top to the 30 million that Obamacare did not cover? Or is this 12 million more being covered.
    It is actually 28.5 million and was declining, and yes, the 22 million would be added to the 28.5 million

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    Trumpcare is DOA.
    https://i.postimg.cc/PqVCnGks/gojoe1.jpg
    C'MON MAN!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    Only 11 million signed up for Obamacare. Can't lose what'cha never had. There will be likely about 22 million who will never even sign up with the new plan. No one will be "losing" their health care. Get your math right.
    Wrong, prior to the ACA 41 million plus had no health coverage, last year that figure was 28.5 and declining, and this 22 million would be added to the 28.5 million to raise the total uninsured to 50.5 million without coverage.

    Forget math, you need to get your facts straight

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    So? Not everybody wants to get insurance. They haven't lost what they never had in first place.
    Abortion rights dogma can obscure human reason & harden the human heart so much that the same person who feels
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    Unborn animals are protected in their nesting places, humans are not. To abort something is to end something
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    So? Not everybody wants to get insurance. They haven't lost what they never had in first place.
    It's not a question of want, few don't want insurance, it's availability, and having access to something that is way beyond your means isn't a decision

    And what you are missing is that in the end you, I, anyone who pays will be paying more when such a huge number goes without insurance coverage

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    Young healthy people don't want any insurance.
    Abortion rights dogma can obscure human reason & harden the human heart so much that the same person who feels
    empathy for animal suffering can lack compassion for unborn children who experience lethal violence and excruciating
    pain in abortion.

    Unborn animals are protected in their nesting places, humans are not. To abort something is to end something
    which has begun. To abort life is to end it.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    Young healthy people don't want any insurance.
    And?

    You trying to tell us there are fifty million "young healthy people" who don't want insurance out there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    And?

    You trying to tell us there are fifty million "young healthy people" who don't want insurance out there?
    There were many that did not want it. The reason Obamacare premiums went up. They were relying on the healthy individuals premiums to offset the cost of those really ill. Either way, I personally thought the whole idea of Obamacare and this current bill was to help insure those that were considered uninsurable or at risk. Neither are doing or have done that. 30 million or 50 million is not acceptable. Scrap it and we should all be demanding that our elected politicians come up with something acceptable. Or throw them all out. Good and Bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    Young healthy people don't want any insurance.
    Sure, and rich people don't want to pay taxes, and beautiful people don't want to grow old and ugly, 15 year old juvenile delinquents don't want to go to class and I wish I had a unicorn that shit gold bricks. Healthy people can still get in an accident.

    Fuck them. They have no right to live in the moment and fuck our future. Tell you what, I'll take that back. Every invincible of any age can opt to be irresponsible and be short sighted and not have health insurance on one condition. That condition is the second they need any medical care whatsoever that they lack cash on the barrelhead to pay for there is a preloaded glock in a safe deposit box with their name on it and I get to shoot them in the face instead of them getting any healthcare. Deal?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    Sure, and rich people don't want to pay taxes, and beautiful people don't want to grow old and ugly, 15 year old juvenile delinquents don't want to go to class and I wish I had a unicorn that shit gold bricks. Healthy people can still get in an accident.

    Fuck them. They have no right to live in the moment and fuck our future.
    There are those who would say the people who force us to pay for their insurance are fucking our future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GazzaQueen View Post
    There are those who would say the people who force us to pay for their insurance are fucking our future.
    But not you? Why take a laboring oar for assholes and not own it? Ans. Both a coward and an asshole.

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