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    Quote Originally Posted by Cadillac Man View Post
    If only gun owners wouldn't let their lawfully owned guns get stolen. We should ban gun ownership from everyone who's ever had a gun stolen.
    That's way too punitive for the victim, nanny fascist, and you know it.

    But if you really want to get heavy handed, I wouldn't mind seeing life sentencing to hard labor for the gun thief and a $10,000 fine on a random criminal coddler such as yourself. It'd be sort of a two for one deal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackvegetable View Post
    . Virginia is one of the top exporters of crime guns
    When a gun is recovered at a crime scene, one of the first challenges for investigators is determining from where the gun came. Restrictions on record keeping for gun purchases that are codified in federal law limit this inquiry to determining where the gun was first sold at retail and the identity of the first retail purchaser. To answer these questions, local law enforcement turns to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, or ATF, which can trace guns from manufacturer through the first point of sale. Part of the tracing process involves identifying whether a gun crossed state lines before being used in a crime. A significant number of crime guns do move from state to state: From 2012 to 2014, 29 percent of guns recovered in crimes and traced were first purchased at retail in another state.
    Virginia is one of the top source states for guns recovered in crimes in other states. Due in part to the state’s weak gun laws and the rise of Interstate 95 as a popular corridor for gun traffickers, Virginia exports a substantial number of crime guns. From 2012 to 2014, Virginia had the nation’s ninth highest rate of crime guns exported to other states, with a rate 61 percent higher than the national average. Moreover, with more than 7,700 firearms purchased in Virginia and later recovered at crime scenes in other states, the state ranked third in terms of the absolute number of crime gun exports. Only Georgia and Texas exported a higher number of crime guns—9,134 and 8,103, respectively.
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    The movement of guns across state lines from states with weaker gun laws, such as Virginia, undermines other states’ efforts to enact strong gun laws and curb gun violence. From 2012 to 2014, 60 percent of crime guns traced back to Virginia were either recovered in the District of Columbia or in one of the 10 states with the strongest gun laws, according to a ranking of state gun laws provided by the Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence. An analysis of crime guns recovered in New York City in 2011 revealed that 90 percent came from out of state, with more crime guns coming from Virginia than from any other state.
    https://www.americanprogress.org/iss...under-the-gun/
    So a democrat state with a democrat governor

    Okey dokey

    Nobody is making you buy a gun you know that right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackvegetable View Post
    You're kinda thick......again, heroin REMAINS ILLEGAL.
    That's right AND PEOPLE STILL GET IT

    Haven't gotten it through your thick African skull yet Sambo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alice in Liberaland View Post
    Prove your assertion that the problem is imported guns

    Look if Newtown couldn't get you to your gun grabbing nirvana nothing will

    Give it up.

    The 2nd Amendment rules.

    Are skeered of being shot?

    Guess what. Heroin is illegal everywhere. People manage to get it. How? It's illegal EVERYWHERE. Crack is illegal EVERYWHERE yet Deshtard manages to get her hands on it. Why?
    No problem

    https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...-out-of-state/

    Drugs and guns are two separate variables, and the reason Newton only bought minimal change is because of 19th Century thinkers as yourself who keep believing anybody who tells you what you want to hear

    And by the way, the Second Amendment is about as relevant today as the Third Amendment

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    Quote Originally Posted by leaningright View Post
    Oh my. Let me go turn all my guns in to the authorities.
    Do what you need to do. Just know that your odds of being protected by your peashooter are less than your odds of being protected by it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    Do what you need to do. Just know that your odds of being protected by your peashooter are less than your odds of being protected by it.
    Not for folks that were raised with guns, who know how to use them, or who are trained with them constantly. I do agree with you on this for the ones who take a basic course, buy a gun and then never practice. Leaningright does not fit the latter type. He looks like quite an outdoorsman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    No problem

    https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...-out-of-state/

    Drugs and guns are two separate variables, and the reason Newton only bought minimal change is because of 19th Century thinkers as yourself who keep believing anybody who tells you what you want to hear

    And by the way, the Second Amendment is about as relevant today as the Third Amendment
    Don't matter what you think. It is here to stay

    And with Kennedy fixin to retire we can solidify our number on the Supreme Court.

    And when Ginsberg kicks the bucket allah willing then it is game over.

    Time for conservatives to interpret that living document our way.

    BOOM BITCHES

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    Last time I checked, half of gun deaths were suicides
    Yep. More guns = more gun deaths

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor View Post
    Not for folks that were raised with guns, who know how to use them, or who are trained with them constantly. I do agree with you on this for the ones who take a basic course, buy a gun and then never practice. Leaningright does not fit the latter type. He looks like quite an outdoorsman.
    Twist it any way you want, dbag. The numbers speak for themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76 View Post
    Twist it any way you want, dbag. The numbers speak for themselves.
    Your little man syndrome is not getting you far in life is it? Have a shoot off between a city dweller who got his pistol permit and a farmer who has to shoot varmints everyday for a living. I realize the common sense of that will go way, way over your head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor View Post
    Your little man syndrome is not getting you far in life is it? Have a shoot off between a city dweller who got his pistol permit and a farmer who has to shoot varmints everyday for a living. I realize the common sense of that will go way, way over your head.
    Laughing at your sorry ass.

    You can concoct whatever scenario you wish. The numbers say the opposite of what you want them to say.

    Keep flailing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by domer76;1944902[B
    ]Laughing at your sorry ass.
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    You can concoct whatever scenario you wish. The numbers say the opposite of what you want them to say.

    Keep flailing.
    Translation: You won. Now I will stomp my feet and hold my breath.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    poor grindy

    tell us why is it that boston has SOOOO many racists
    Wait, how can a liberal area have so many racists?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    Wait, how can a liberal area have so many racists?
    Psssssssssssssssssssttt. White liberals are racist as all get to fuck. Do not tell anyone though.

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