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    BTW are they actually cutting spending or cutting the rate of growth? There is a difference not that I would expect a dumbass like Deshtard to get it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alice in Liberaland View Post
    Will you rise up or be ineffectual
    I don't live in a Red State, actually effects my State minimally, and part of me hopes the bill passes as soon as possible, it will do for the Democrats what Obamacare did for the GOP, but I got to think about the Nation as a whole, and this bill ain't good

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    Quote Originally Posted by Getin the ring View Post
    The sooner you stop making stuff up, the sooner your party might actually start WINNING..again
    LOLOLOLOL

    but something tells me you are still a long way out


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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    includes major tax cuts for the top tax brackets, and being a reconciliation bill, to balance those cuts is eliminating billions from Medicare. In other words, the bill is actually a tax cut for the top made possible by eliminating health care for the bottom

    That ought to sit well in those Red States with high Medicare enrollment as West Virginia
    FYI: The (wink, wink) Billions being cut from the roles of "medicare" are those picked up by Obama Care....those who did not meet the qualifications for medicare in the first place. Nothing will change.... as the "20 something leeches" will go back to sucking the state dry on MEDICIAD.... Obama Care did not add the advertised 20 million new former un-insured unto the rolls....as 14 million out of the supposed 20 million qualified for mediciad before Obama Care attempted to cook the health care books. And the "new" would never meet the limited "income" limitations placed on Mediciad. That's why OBAMA CARE mandated the young to purchase (wink, wink) insurance they did not need or did not want. Any young person could go to any major health insurance carrier and purchase "catastrophic coverage" for pennies a day @ 1/10 the mandated wealth ordered under OBAMA CARE.

    But once again....not taxing someone...anyone is not giving anything away as the wealth attempting to be redistributed belongs to those who EARNED IT....it belongs to them not BIG BROTHER.

    Question? Just how does Big Brother pay for medicare in the first place? Answer: It does not...there is no real money in the supposed locked social security trust fund....its all based upon CREDIT and worthless government bonds that could never be paid if the tab were to be called for today...thus the 19 Trillion in debt.

    There is no TAX PROBLEM to begin with as the United States Government takes in 8 Trillion dollars each year.....but there is a "progressive" SPENDING PROBLEM used to purchase the votes of socialist leeches.

    Another FYI: The good people of WVa? They did overwhelming vote for Trump....why? Because they have lived through failed liberal policies that have allowed the Carpet Baggers to steal the natural resources and wealth from the state since the end of the civil war. In other words...unlike the lies and ignorant propaganda you are attempting to spread like butter on toast....the majority of the folks in rural states such as WV are blue collar workers and have informed themselves of the real facts and the need to change the status quo where the blue collar middle class working folk have been sold out by the LIBERAL ELITE big city boys who naturally think they deserve to be in power because they are so much smarter than the workers with dirt under their nails.

    WVA numbers? Trump won 68% to Hillary's 26%. But I am sure your propaganda will change the minds of these hard working miners and blue collar support workers...all it takes is BS as Hillary found out....oops!
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    ITs still the same basic format as Obamacare, It could be a lot worse, its not really a repeal.

    Its simply a second generation Obamacare with less protections for poor people and a gutting of the taxes that paid for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alice in Liberaland View Post
    BTW are they actually cutting spending or cutting the rate of growth? There is a difference not that I would expect a dumbass like Deshtard to get it
    the fact that you call me desh instead of evince outs you grind


    the money wont be spent which means children will die for lack of care


    Instead that money wil be given to the wealthy in tax cuts


    someone who makes a million will get back 50,000 dollars



    that means those rich people can redo their master bath or get a bigger pool while children die for lack of care



    Putin must be so proud of you

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    the fact that you call me desh instead of evince outs you grind


    the money wont be spent which means children will die for lack of care


    Instead that money wil be given to the wealthy in tax cuts


    someone who makes a million will get back 50,000 dollars



    that means those rich people can redo their master bath or get a bigger pool while children die for lack of care



    Putin must be so proud of you
    I am not Grind you dumb twat. Grind wishes he was as smart and good lookin as me

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    This bill is "mean".

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    Does anyone support it?

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    I do, in as far as it stops the bleeding that is Obamacare.

    It's a discussion bill, needing all hands on deck to iron out fixes.

    But the premise of not forcing someone to buy something they don't want to buy, or need.
    And adding incentives for states to get involved more rather that the wholesale draining of federal funds, and allowing across state lines competition, you know that capitalism idea, is a start
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    I think what's happening now is a near-perfect reflection of the differences in priorities between the 2 parties.

    Democrats look out for the most vulnerable in our society. Republicans look out for the very wealthy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Does anyone support it?
    No. I want a one page bill that just repeals the whole fucking thing. Done

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    I think what's happening now is a near-perfect reflection of the differences in priorities between the 2 parties.

    Democrats look out for the most vulnerable in our society. Republicans look out for the very wealthy.
    I know you want to believe that. I know that is what you tell yourselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph View Post
    FYI: The (wink, wink) Billions being cut from the roles of "medicare" are those picked up by Obama Care....those who did not meet the qualifications for medicare in the first place. Nothing will change.... as the "20 something leeches" will go back to sucking the state dry on MEDICIAD.... Obama Care did not add the advertised 20 million new former un-insured unto the rolls....as 14 million out of the supposed 20 million qualified for mediciad before Obama Care attempted to cook the health care books. And the "new" would never meet the limited "income" limitations placed on Mediciad. That's why OBAMA CARE mandated the young to purchase (wink, wink) insurance they did not need or did not want. Any young person could go to any major health insurance carrier and purchase "catastrophic coverage" for pennies a day @ 1/10 the mandated wealth ordered under OBAMA CARE.

    But once again....not taxing someone...anyone is not giving anything away as the wealth attempting to be redistributed belongs to those who EARNED IT....it belongs to them not BIG BROTHER.

    Question? Just how does Big Brother pay for medicare in the first place? Answer: It does not...there is no real money in the supposed locked social security trust fund....its all based upon CREDIT and worthless government bonds that could never be paid if the tab were to be called for today...thus the 19 Trillion in debt.

    There is no TAX PROBLEM to begin with as the United States Government takes in 8 Trillion dollars each year.....but there is a "progressive" SPENDING PROBLEM used to purchase the votes of socialist leeches.

    Another FYI: The good people of WVa? They did overwhelming vote for Trump....why? Because they have lived through failed liberal policies that have allowed the Carpet Baggers to steal the natural resources and wealth from the state since the end of the civil war. In other words...unlike the lies and ignorant propaganda you are attempting to spread like butter on toast....the majority of the folks in rural states such as WV are blue collar workers and have informed themselves of the real facts and the need to change the status quo where the blue collar middle class working folk have been sold out by the LIBERAL ELITE big city boys who naturally think they deserve to be in power because they are so much smarter than the workers with dirt under their nails.

    WVA numbers? Trump won 68% to Hillary's 26%. But I am sure your propaganda will change the minds of these hard working miners and blue collar support workers...all it takes is BS as Hillary found out....oops!
    Only thing missing is the right wing blog that was copied and pasted off of

    Fact, it's a cut in tax for a select few and a balancing reduction in benefits for another select group, the rest of your social political babble is irrelevant

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alice in Liberaland View Post
    I know you want to believe that. I know that is what you tell yourselves.
    How else would you interpret actions that take so much from the poor & give so much to the wealthy?

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