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    If the DNC didn't care enough to ask for help from DHS and the FBI I guess they weren't that concerned about Russian meddling. Case closed.

    What was the DNC hiding?

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    first off I question the hacking was by "Russian State actors",
    and not just some Guciffer types.

    I have a problem reconciling that these super-hackers would leave being old coded malware.
    Also the fact the DNC servers were never seen by the FBI is troubling.

    But say it's true. the Podesta Emails were simple pfishing,and the DNC had known security problems
    ( the FBI tried to reach them,but they never responded)
    e-mature reports of Russian hacking the in the French election never happened.

    It's all blown up by the Comey ( Deep State) types who actualy testified that "The Russians are coming to get America" ( his words).

    We know China hacked US personnel records-and got millions of profiles.
    Yet you never hear much about that -surely not any "Sinophobia" equivalent to our Russia phobia

    None of this is earthshaking news.
    It happened all the time ( although pr

    "da Russians" are our visceral boogeyman,and the price we pay is Cold War 2.0 as well as Russia moving closer into the Chinese orbit
    Maybe we will hear more about it when they start actually acting on it...
    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
    Maybe we will hear more about it when they start actually acting on it...
    I'm not trying to minimize the hacking by Russians - but it needs to be put into perspective.
    It did not change any votes,and it di not cost the election.
    Hillary lost all by herself because she was an awful candidate.

    Freaks like John McCain who call it an "act of war" ( when it happens all the time) are dangerous warmongers
    that should be shunned ,and not listened to or reinforced by Comey and Deep State leadership trading on Russiaphobia

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    Back to the worn out playbook by libtards like Bill.
    Keep changing the names. It doesn't change the meaning.



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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    He has to be the last person in America who might have actually thought the Russians didn't interfere

    He just can't get over the fact that he knows that if the election was totally above board he would have lost
    Dude, the Russians have been 'election meddling' going back to Ted Kennedy's run. But now it's a big deal because Trump won.
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    subpoena Crowdstrike......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    Russia not only hacked the DNC and Hillary in service of Trump, it tried to hack 25 or so state election computers apparently as many as 5 attempts per second to get in to alter votes in his favor (although not succeeding)

    The Russians are trying to destroy western democracy all over the world. Trump doesn't care that Russia believed he was the inferior of the two final US candidates.

    cue anatta to call it all Russiaphobia.
    Yet Obama didn't stop them. Why?

    Why didn't the DNC let the FBI look at their servers? If you really wanted to get to the bottom of this you would be demanding an investigation of those servers. Of course I am sure that they have been "cleaned" by now.

    Still running with the Russians colluded with Trump story? Will you rise up or just whine on a message board?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
    If they actually did alter the outcome in some way would they admit it??
    Duh Russians didn't alter the results. Hillary sucked and Obama was the worst President in history.

    Trump won and he will keep winning. He connects with people like no one else.

    After 8 years of hate and race-baiting, people finally revolted.

    BIG league.

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    This reminds me of the 9/11 twoofers; the loons who said "Booooooosh brought down duh towerZ".

    BAC Panther was one of those true believers. lol

    Now we have the Trump-Russian Twoofers. Just nuts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Dude, the Russians have been 'election meddling' going back to Ted Kennedy's run. But now it's a big deal because Trump won.
    I am sure it was a big deal then, but was handled more covertly, Presidents took it seriously, but now we have Trump, who encouraged them, remember his comment asking them to find Hillary's emails? This is why it appears to be a bigger deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Covfefe View Post
    I am sure it was a big deal then, but was handled more covertly, Presidents took it seriously, but now we have Trump, who encouraged them, remember his comment asking them to find Hillary's emails? This is why it appears to be a bigger deal.
    But shouldn't that lay to rest any suspicion of collusion?

    Do you really think Trump would be mocking Russian email releases if he had a quid pro quo with them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    But shouldn't that lay to rest any suspicion of collusion?

    Do you really think Trump would be mocking Russian email releases if he had a quid pro quo with them?
    of course not..the whole concept is silly.
    It's driven by a servile media, and a Deep State paranoia topped off with John McCain jingoism.
    Screw all that noise

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    of course not..the whole concept is silly.
    It's driven by a servile media, and a Deep State paranoia topped off with John McCain jingoism.
    Screw all that noise
    I asked in another thread~why your idea of what the deep state is & what tsuke says it is??
    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
    I asked in another thread~why your idea of what the deep state is & what tsuke says it is??
    I've gone over it. Quickly it's politicization of the IC community by it's leadership. (un-elected bureaucrats)
    Sometimes acting in coordiantion with elected officials -but more commonly leaking to publications.

    You have to understand how the Obama strategy of generating many raw intelligence bits across the IC spectrum
    ( with it's previous "walls" removed) leads to generation of more formalized reports.
    The reports are the basis for assessments.

    The many generated reports are then 'stand alone' intel pieces,that can be unmasked and leaked
    to do damage to Trump & associates in this case. Or to steer policy ( like Russiaphobia)

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    I've gone over it. Quickly it's politicization of the IC community by it's leadership. (un-elected bureaucrats)
    Sometimes acting in coordiantion with elected officials -but more commonly leaking to publications.

    You have to understand how the Obama strategy of generating many raw intelligence bits across the IC spectrum
    ( with it's previous "walls" removed) leads to generation of more formalized reports.
    The reports are the basis for assessments.

    The many generated reports are then 'stand alone' intel pieces,that can be unmasked and leaked
    to do damage to Trump & associates in this case. Or to steer policy ( like Russiaphobia)
    You posted in the thread, this time I noticed a wiki mention......
    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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