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    Quote Originally Posted by tsuke View Post
    obama is not gone. He has set himself up to be the next leader of the clinton wing.
    He will never be in charge of this country again.

    That was the point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TTQ64 View Post
    Racist white men don't want to pay for pregnancy or women's issues, but we pay for their Viagra.....lets just cut their little dicks off so they won't need the Viagra.
    No one does. Not my responsibility to pay for you to fuck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by signalmankenneth View Post
    I love the why the communist democrats attempt to portray a person as a thief when they simply keep what they have "earned" and don't pay taxes in order to redistribute their "EARNED INCOME". FYI: Not paying a tax is not comparable to the government GIVING anything away....its comparable to stopping the government from "taking" personal income and giving it to others...i.e., communism. Look it up as Archie Bunker used to say.

    Enlighten us...just who is the "thief"...the government and its political cronies who make, manufacture or earn nothing, or the people who actually earn the income for labor, service or products provided by voluntary choice in a free market system? Everything the government has or ever will have must first be taken/seized or coerced under threat of prison. Now who supports freedom and representative democracy...those who demand the government seize personal wealth and redistribute it....or those who support a system with a "fair tax" where "everyone" pays equally?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deplorable Me View Post
    All the gubmint produces is crap because there is no incentive to produce a quality product. Thank God Obama is gone forever.
    Profit driven health insurance has no business being in healthcare. The govt. has not 'produced' healthcare.
    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deplorable Me View Post
    No one does. Not my responsibility to pay for you to fuck.
    And it's not our responsibility to pay for your liposuction. But we do.

    It's a concept called 'cost sharing', and every type of insurance relies on it.
    Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    Profit driven health insurance has no business being in healthcare. The govt. has not 'produced' healthcare.
    Why is profit bad in healthcare? Explain?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
    Thinly veiled justification for the kind of right-wing greed that puts money not only above human misery and suffering, but above the misery and suffering of their fellow countrymen, women and children.

    And the dumbest part of the rights position is that, insurance or not, eventually sick people will need to seek treatment. But because they lack insurance due to the unGodly expense, they'll wait until their illness gets so bad they have no choice but to go to ER's where treatment cannot be refused, and where the now, much more expensive bill they cannot afford to pay, will be passed on to the taxpayer anyway.

    Too bad right-wing hatred, resentment and greed is too shortsighted to grasp that.

    But then again, I guess the logical extension of your position is to get the laws to where even ER's can refuse treatment based on ability to pay and poor sick people would be told to go somewhere and die.

    That's what you really want isn't it, right wing scum?
    why don't you get off your whine tour and tell us what you think the solution is.

    A wise man said before you whine and moan about someone elses solution to a problem it may mean more if you had one of your own
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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    Profit driven health insurance has no business being in healthcare. The govt. has not 'produced' healthcare.
    No, they're not in charge of it. The government is not charged with 'healthcare' or any of this other freebie garbage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Althea View Post
    And it's not our responsibility to pay for your liposuction. But we do.

    It's a concept called 'cost sharing', and every type of insurance relies on it.
    Bullshit.

    But keep dreaming, your Commie dreams will only go downhill from here.

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    Instead of taking the ludicrous stance that Republicans want to take health care away from poor people so they can give money to rich people, which is actually more stupid when you say it out loud (try it),
    maybe democrats can admit Obamacare is collapsing and offer some help on the solution to rescue it from itself
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deplorable Me View Post
    No one does. Not my responsibility to pay for you to fuck.
    Your taxes are always going to pay for health care for the poor one way or the other, no matter which party is in office.

    The difference is that under Republican "health no-care" you're also going to pay higher insurance premiums on top of that, in order to compensate for all the free ER care the hospitals are forced to give away because of Republicans' need to satisfy their greedy, hateful, resentful base.

    As I said in an earlier post, the right won't be happy until ER's are legally allowed to refuse treatment on the basis lack of ability to pay.

    That is the "America" your side wants.

    I pray you never get it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Getin the ring View Post
    Instead of taking the ludicrous stance that Republicans want to take health care away from poor people so they can give money to rich people, which is actually more stupid when you say it out loud (try it),
    maybe democrats can admit Obamacare is collapsing and offer some help on the solution to rescue it from itself
    Why are those huge tax cuts in the Repugnants' health don't care bill then, Einstoned?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
    Your taxes are always going to pay for health care for the poor one way or the other, no matter which party is in office.

    The difference is that under Republican "health no-care" you're also going to pay higher insurance premiums on top of that, in order to compensate for all the free ER care the hospitals are forced to give away because of Republicans' need to satisfy their greedy, hateful, resentful base.

    As I said in an earlier post, the right won't be happy until ER's are legally allowed to refuse treatment on the basis lack of ability to pay.

    That is the "America" your side wants.

    I pray you never get it.
    Who do you think is paying for the billions of dollars of 'free' subsidies floating around? People already pay higher premiums and ERs give away plenty of 'free' healthcare.

    Obamacare was a poorly designed plan which has gotten us to this point. The shoddily run govt being in charge of healthcare would be a death sentence for many. Hope you never get that wish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deplorable Me View Post
    Who do you think is paying for the billions of dollars of 'free' subsidies floating around? People already pay higher premiums and ERs give away plenty of 'free' healthcare.

    Obamacare was a poorly designed plan which has gotten us to this point. The shoddily run govt being in charge of healthcare would be a death sentence for many. Hope you never get that wish.
    No shit. That's why Obama tried to expand Medicaid nationwide and pay for it with the billions in savings brought about via Medicare reforms.

    Had the right-wing red state assholes not refused to participate, hospitals would have gotten reimbursed for treatment and ER care wouldn't have been necessary for non-emergency treatment to begin with.

    That's why hospitals across the nation as well as associations which represent their interests, were on their knees begging the Repugnants to pass Medicaid expansion in their states.

    It's a shame that people on your side are so blinded by your visceral, petty hatred and resentment of others that you can't even grasp such a fundamentally simple concept.
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    Just repeal the rule that forces hospitals to treat patients and not be compensated.

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