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    Quote Originally Posted by GazzaQueen View Post
    Biggest upset in American political history. Historically speaking.

    To clarify...Obama was very popular, and so lost everything the Dems had gained.

    Trump is unpopular, so will lose everything the Reps have gained.

    Something like that?
    It's a pendulum. Only posters like desh & ILA think majorities last forever.

    But, the GOP will probably lose more, because Trump IS so unpopular.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tsuke View Post
    what your also missing is the environment for teh midterms will be a lot closer to the Handel election than it is to the grapplin greg or south carolina elections. Democrats will try and make it about trump.

    FYI if red areas vote red and blue areas vote blue your going to get massacred in the senate.
    Dems SHOULD try to make the mid-term about Trump. That worked for the GOP in '94; it's what the national party should do.

    The Senate won't be a massacre. By '18, no one is going to want one-party rule.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    It's a pendulum. Only posters like desh & ILA think majorities last forever.

    But, the GOP will probably lose more, because Trump IS so unpopular.
    The pendulum is only now...last November...swinging right. The constant crying over The POTUS is killing the opposition. They need an idea someone will agree with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    Dems SHOULD try to make the mid-term about Trump. That worked for the GOP in '94; it's what the national party should do.

    The Senate won't be a massacre. By '18, no one is going to want one-party rule.
    then your going to have teh same results as ossoff but with less money. Democrats are in danger of exhausting their donor base
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    Quote Originally Posted by tsuke View Post
    then your going to have teh same results as ossoff but with less money. Democrats are in danger of exhausting their donor base
    Why would the results be the same as Ossoff? You're assuming that every district is as red as Georgia's 6th.

    You're also assuming that Senate races have the same dynamic as Congressional races. There isn't any gerrymandering for Senate races, and those DO tend to be more national.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    Dems SHOULD try to make the mid-term about Trump. That worked for the GOP in '94; it's what the national party should do.

    The Senate won't be a massacre. By '18, no one is going to want one-party rule.
    and that would be a mistake as i pointed out earlier.
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    Losing by single digit points in four strong GOP strongholds within months of the national election?

    I wouldn't say that's great, but certainly promising considering midterms are over a year away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    It's a pendulum. Only posters like desh & ILA think majorities last forever.

    But, the GOP will probably lose more, because Trump IS so unpopular.
    Now who is being intellectually dishonest?

    When did I ever say majorities last forever? I never have you liar. I have been posting for weeks that the GOP can lose their majority in 2018 but it won't be because of Trump. It will be because they will betray their base.


    Now since you claim to be a student of history, you would know that midterm turnout generally favors the GOP.

    If they keep their promises to their base they increase their majority in the House and Senate. But ONLY if they keep their promises.

    Now which of you dishonest fucksticks will be the first to take my post out of context?

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    Jon Ossoff spent $30M yesterday to not become a Congressman, yesterday I spent $0 for the same outcome. WHO'S THE BETTER POLITICIAN NOW?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    Exactly. You don't seem to be much of a student of history in general.

    The GOP is basically maxxed out. They made huge gains throughout the Obama years, mainly due to Obamacare, which was perceived as an overreach by the electorate (even though Obama basically had a mandate for it in '08).

    History tells us the following: it is rare that the party in power makes gains in a mid-term election. Beyond that, it is rare that Americans give one party the reigns of power for too long. Americans are mostly purple - they prefer split government.

    And as much as the Dems bumbled this, I think Perez and Ellison are pretty capable leaders in general. Given Trump's historic unpopularity, they will be able to win a lot of races in '18.

    Too bad for you guys that Georgia doesn't decide the whole House.
    Perez is viewed as an establishment tool by the Bernmaster Sandy crowd, and if the Dems are stupid enough to make Caliph Ellison their leader, then we are going to have a field day with him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Threedee View Post
    Perez is viewed as an establishment tool by the Bernmaster Sandy crowd, and if the Dems are stupid enough to make Caliph Ellison their leader, then we are going to have a field day with him.
    I have to agree with this. While I agree with Lorax that we are more purple than red or blue, if the democrats make Ellison the face of the party they aren't going to gain much at all, if anything over the next few years.

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    one more lesson from Georgia's 6th......Ossoff couldn't vote for himself because he wasn't registered to vote in the 6th......that vote may have made a world of difference.........maybe Hilliary got away with carpetbagging, but she did it in a district that would never have voted for the other party......

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    one more lesson from Georgia's 6th......Ossoff couldn't vote for himself because he wasn't registered to vote in the 6th......that vote may have made a world of difference.........maybe Hilliary got away with carpetbagging, but she did it in a district that would never have voted for the other party......
    Need to correct you. Hillary was a carpetbagger for the state not a district. She ran for Senate not the House

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    Quote Originally Posted by Threedee View Post
    Perez is viewed as an establishment tool by the Bernmaster Sandy crowd, and if the Dems are stupid enough to make Caliph Ellison their leader, then we are going to have a field day with him.
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