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    Quote Originally Posted by Alice in Liberaland View Post
    I have been telling Clingy Thingy and his ilk that over and over again but he has this illusion that science will save the day and do something never done before and that overcome the laws of thermodynamics.
    True, true - when has science EVER done something that hasn't been done before?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    True, true - when has science EVER done something that hasn't been done before?

    LOL
    That isn't the argument I am making and you know it

    You haven't even begun to conceptualize the amount if energy it would take to create your dream world. The number of natural resources. The environmental impact.

    There is proof of liberal pipe dreams in the form of ethanol. Remember that promise?

    It was supposed to get us off of foreign oil. It did no such thing. But it added untold unnecessary costs to society. Including more pollution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alice in Liberaland View Post
    That isn't the argument I am making and you know it

    You haven't even begun to conceptualize the amount if energy it would take to create your dream world. The number of natural resources. The environmental impact.

    There is proof of liberal pipe dreams in the form of ethanol. Remember that promise?

    It was supposed to get us off of foreign oil. It did no such thing. But it added untold unnecessary costs to society. Including more pollution.
    With any new technologies, there is likely going to be a history of failure. As I keep saying, it doesn't seem like you have paid much attention to human history.

    You're literally the guy decades ago who saw an IBM computer take up 3 rooms in an office building and laughed off the idea of people ever having one on their desktop - or carrying it around in their pocket.

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    THE REAL SOURCE OF CRUDE OIL WAS ESTABLISHED THROUGH AN EXPERIMENT PERFORMED BY A COMPANY IN HOUSTON IN 2004. THEY DECIDED TO TEST A RUSSIAN THEORY DATING FROM THE 1960S THAT STATES THAT CRUDE OIL COMES FROM PLANKTON IN THE SEA. HERE IS THE THEORY:

    PHYTOPLANKTON PERFORM PHOTOSYNTHESIS AND ABSORB CO2 FROM THE AIR. THE PHYTOPLANKTON ARE EATEN BY ZOOPLANKTON THAT PRODUCE TINY SHELLS. WHEN THE ZOOPLANKTON DIE, THEY FALL TO THE BOTTOM OF THE SEA. THEIR ORGANIC MATTER ROTS, BUT THEIR SHELLS LEAVE BEHIND CALCIUM CARBONATE, CaCO3, A DURABLE CARBON CONTAINING COMPOUND. OVER MILLIONS OF YEARS THE CALCIUM CARBONATE BECOMES BONDED TOGETHER INTO SOLID MARBLE OR LIMESTONE.

    SOMETIMES THAT MARBLE IS THRUST UP OUT OF THE SEA AS IT IS IN PLACES LIKE VERMONT. IN OTHER AREAS, IT CAN BE THRUST DOWN INTO THE EARTH (SUBDUCTED). WHEN IT REACHES A DEPTH OF ABOUT 60 MILES, THE EXTREME PRESSURE AND HEAT CAUSES CALCIUM CARBONATE TO REACT WITH WATER AND IRON OXIDE TO PRODUCE NATURAL GAS (METHANE, CH4). WHEN IT REACHES A DEPTH OF ABOUT 100 MILES, CRUDE OIL IS PRODUCED.

    NOTE THAT WHEN WE BURN CRUDE OIL, CO2 IS RELEASED TO FEED THE PLANKTON, TO PRODUCE MORE CALCIUM CARBONATE, TO PRODUCE MORE OIL... THUS CRUDE OIL IS A RENEWABLE RESOURCE.

    SO HOW DOES THE RUSSIAN THEORY STAND UP? THE HOUSTON EXPERIMENT FOUND THAT CRUDE OIL WAS PRODUCED IN EXACTLY THE COMPOSITION AND PROPORTIONS WE FIND IN THE GROUND TODAY. IT MAKES PERFECT SENSE FROM A CHEMISTRY STANDPOINT. IT ALSO AGREES WITH EVERYTHING WE SEE IN THE DISTRIBUTION OF CRUDE OIL AND WHERE WE FIND IT IN THE EARTH.

    THE CRUDE OIL WE FIND IS PERCOLATING UP FROM FAR BELOW WHERE WE DISCOVER IT TRAPPED IN THE EARTH. THE CRUDE WE SEE IS LIKE THE COFFEE IN THE SMALL GLASS BUBBLE ON THE TOP OF A PERCOLATOR - MOST OF IT IS DOWN BELOW.

    THERE'S A VERY INTERESTING OIL WELL ON AN ISLAND OFF THE COAST OF LOUISIANA. A FEW YEARS AGO IT APPEARED TO BE REACHING THE END OF ITS PRODUCTIVE LIFE, ITS PRODUCTION WAS DECLINING.

    SUDDENLY ITS OIL PRODUCTION WENT UP AND THE OIL CHANGED FROM A MEDIUM CRUDE TO A LIGHT CRUDE! THIS MEANS A YOUNGER SOURCE OF OIL WAS COMING UP FROM BELOW.

    IT'S ALSO WORTH NOTING THAT IN THE 70S SAUDI ARABIAN CRUDE WAS PREDICTED TO HAVE RUN OUT BY NOW, YET THEIR RESERVES HAVE RISEN. IN ALL PROBABILITY, YOUNGER CRUDE IS COMING UP FROM BELOW.

    WE NEED CHEAP ENERGY AND OIL IS NEARLY PERFECT FOR TRANSPORTATION PURPOSES. IT PACKS A LOT OF ENERGY PER GALLON, IS EASILY PUMPED, AND PRODUCES A NICE CO2 FEEDSTOCK FOR PLANKTON.SO WHY IS IT VERY FEW PEOPLE HAVE HEARD ABOUT THE HOUSTON EXPERIMENT? IT HAS THE DISTINCT RING OF TRUTH, AND IT IS PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT SCIENTIFIC EXPERIMENT PERFORMED SO FAR THIS CENTURY. IT MAY BE THAT JOURNALISTS JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND THE SIGNIFICANCE, OR THEY MAY STILL BELIEVE THAT CRUDE OIL COMES FROM DINOSAURS.

    THE LONG TERM CHALLENGE IS TO FIND THE CHEAPEST WAY TO PRODUCE OIL AND NOT GET UNDERCUT BY THE SAUDIS. IT MEANS IMPROVED TECHNOLOGY TO GET TO THE DEEPER OIL THAT WE NEED.

    Thomas Gold, a professor of astronomy who taught at Cornell University in the 90's.

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    The widespread use of the term “fossil fuels” is a deception created by anti-energy propagandists and earlier theorists to make people believe that oil is the result of countless dead dinosaurs and decaying vegetation. Oil, however, is “abiotic”, a term that means it is a natural product of the earth itself manufactured at deep levels where there never were any plants or animals.

    Carbon is the fourth more abundant element in the universe, right after hydrogen, helium, and oxygen. Thomas Gold pointed out that carbon is found mostly in compounds with hydrogen—hydrocarbons—which, at different temperatures and pressures, may be gaseous, liquid, or solid.

    Eliminating the fear that the world is running out of oil eliminates an urgency to experiment with or to implement alternative fuels including biofuels, wind energy, and solar energy as long as these energies remain less energy-efficient, less reliable, and more costly than using oil and natural gas.

    The Earth is not running out of oil and likely never will.

    Dr. Jerome R. Corsi’s , The Great Oil Conspiracy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    With any new technologies, there is likely going to be a history of failure. As I keep saying, it doesn't seem like you have paid much attention to human history.

    You're literally the guy decades ago who saw an IBM computer take up 3 rooms in an office building and laughed off the idea of people ever having one on their desktop - or carrying it around in their pocket.
    No because they didn't have to overcome basic laws of physics to do so

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alice in Liberaland View Post
    No because they didn't have to overcome basic laws of physics to do so
    Good thing that wind & solar don't have to either. All science has to do is improve their harnessing ability & efficiencies.

    There will be more articles like the OP in the coming years, that you'll look increasingly desperate trying to discredit. And desperate for what, exactly? So strange.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    THE REAL SOURCE OF CRUDE OIL WAS ESTABLISHED THROUGH AN EXPERIMENT PERFORMED BY A COMPANY IN HOUSTON IN 2004. THEY DECIDED TO TEST A RUSSIAN THEORY DATING FROM THE 1960S THAT STATES THAT CRUDE OIL COMES FROM PLANKTON IN THE SEA. HERE IS THE THEORY:

    PHYTOPLANKTON PERFORM PHOTOSYNTHESIS AND ABSORB CO2 FROM THE AIR. THE PHYTOPLANKTON ARE EATEN BY ZOOPLANKTON THAT PRODUCE TINY SHELLS. WHEN THE ZOOPLANKTON DIE, THEY FALL TO THE BOTTOM OF THE SEA. THEIR ORGANIC MATTER ROTS, BUT THEIR SHELLS LEAVE BEHIND CALCIUM CARBONATE, CaCO3, A DURABLE CARBON CONTAINING COMPOUND. OVER MILLIONS OF YEARS THE CALCIUM CARBONATE BECOMES BONDED TOGETHER INTO SOLID MARBLE OR LIMESTONE.

    SOMETIMES THAT MARBLE IS THRUST UP OUT OF THE SEA AS IT IS IN PLACES LIKE VERMONT. IN OTHER AREAS, IT CAN BE THRUST DOWN INTO THE EARTH (SUBDUCTED). WHEN IT REACHES A DEPTH OF ABOUT 60 MILES, THE EXTREME PRESSURE AND HEAT CAUSES CALCIUM CARBONATE TO REACT WITH WATER AND IRON OXIDE TO PRODUCE NATURAL GAS (METHANE, CH4). WHEN IT REACHES A DEPTH OF ABOUT 100 MILES, CRUDE OIL IS PRODUCED.

    NOTE THAT WHEN WE BURN CRUDE OIL, CO2 IS RELEASED TO FEED THE PLANKTON, TO PRODUCE MORE CALCIUM CARBONATE, TO PRODUCE MORE OIL... THUS CRUDE OIL IS A RENEWABLE RESOURCE.

    SO HOW DOES THE RUSSIAN THEORY STAND UP? THE HOUSTON EXPERIMENT FOUND THAT CRUDE OIL WAS PRODUCED IN EXACTLY THE COMPOSITION AND PROPORTIONS WE FIND IN THE GROUND TODAY. IT MAKES PERFECT SENSE FROM A CHEMISTRY STANDPOINT. IT ALSO AGREES WITH EVERYTHING WE SEE IN THE DISTRIBUTION OF CRUDE OIL AND WHERE WE FIND IT IN THE EARTH.

    THE CRUDE OIL WE FIND IS PERCOLATING UP FROM FAR BELOW WHERE WE DISCOVER IT TRAPPED IN THE EARTH. THE CRUDE WE SEE IS LIKE THE COFFEE IN THE SMALL GLASS BUBBLE ON THE TOP OF A PERCOLATOR - MOST OF IT IS DOWN BELOW.

    THERE'S A VERY INTERESTING OIL WELL ON AN ISLAND OFF THE COAST OF LOUISIANA. A FEW YEARS AGO IT APPEARED TO BE REACHING THE END OF ITS PRODUCTIVE LIFE, ITS PRODUCTION WAS DECLINING.

    SUDDENLY ITS OIL PRODUCTION WENT UP AND THE OIL CHANGED FROM A MEDIUM CRUDE TO A LIGHT CRUDE! THIS MEANS A YOUNGER SOURCE OF OIL WAS COMING UP FROM BELOW.

    IT'S ALSO WORTH NOTING THAT IN THE 70S SAUDI ARABIAN CRUDE WAS PREDICTED TO HAVE RUN OUT BY NOW, YET THEIR RESERVES HAVE RISEN. IN ALL PROBABILITY, YOUNGER CRUDE IS COMING UP FROM BELOW.

    WE NEED CHEAP ENERGY AND OIL IS NEARLY PERFECT FOR TRANSPORTATION PURPOSES. IT PACKS A LOT OF ENERGY PER GALLON, IS EASILY PUMPED, AND PRODUCES A NICE CO2 FEEDSTOCK FOR PLANKTON.SO WHY IS IT VERY FEW PEOPLE HAVE HEARD ABOUT THE HOUSTON EXPERIMENT? IT HAS THE DISTINCT RING OF TRUTH, AND IT IS PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT SCIENTIFIC EXPERIMENT PERFORMED SO FAR THIS CENTURY. IT MAY BE THAT JOURNALISTS JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND THE SIGNIFICANCE, OR THEY MAY STILL BELIEVE THAT CRUDE OIL COMES FROM DINOSAURS.

    THE LONG TERM CHALLENGE IS TO FIND THE CHEAPEST WAY TO PRODUCE OIL AND NOT GET UNDERCUT BY THE SAUDIS. IT MEANS IMPROVED TECHNOLOGY TO GET TO THE DEEPER OIL THAT WE NEED.

    Thomas Gold, a professor of astronomy who taught at Cornell University in the 90's.

    ************************************************** ********************

    The widespread use of the term “fossil fuels” is a deception created by anti-energy propagandists and earlier theorists to make people believe that oil is the result of countless dead dinosaurs and decaying vegetation. Oil, however, is “abiotic”, a term that means it is a natural product of the earth itself “manufactured at deep levels where there never were any plants or animals.

    Carbon is the fourth more abundant element in the universe, right after hydrogen, helium, and oxygen. Thomas Gold pointed out that carbon is found mostly in compounds with hydrogen—hydrocarbons—which, at different temperatures and pressures, may be gaseous, liquid, or solid.

    Eliminating the fear that the world is running out of oil eliminates an urgency to experiment with or to implement alternative fuels including biofuels, wind energy, and solar energy as long as these energies remain less energy-efficient, less reliable, and more costly than using oil and natural gas.

    The Earth is not running out of oil and likely never will.

    Dr. Jerome R. Corsi’s , The Great Oil Conspiracy
    What a phenomenal read. Expect Clingy Thingy to accuse you of hating personal computers now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alice in Liberaland View Post
    What a phenomenal read. Expect Clingy Thingy to accuse you of hating personal computers now.
    Understandable...it's made from carbon-rich oil happy-smiley58.gif
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alice in Liberaland View Post
    I have been telling Clingy Thingy and his ilk that over and over again but he has this illusion that science will save the day and do something never done before and that overcome the laws of thermodynamics.
    But what liberal1 and even zippy himself don't understand is that there are darker designs behind environutbaggery. Mark Steyn, Mark Levin, and other reliable sources have all covered this stuff before, and it's well worth the few minutes to go over what they've said.

    Here's a link to one of Levin's comments:

    http://www.cnsnews.com/blog/sam-dorman/
    Free speech is cool as long as it jibes with our program.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Granule View Post
    But what liberal1 and even zippy himself don't understand is that there are darker designs behind environutbaggery. Mark Steyn, Mark Levin, and other reliable sources have all covered this stuff before, and it's well worth the few minutes to go over what they've said.

    Here's a link to one of Levin's comments:

    http://www.cnsnews.com/blog/sam-dorman/
    I can't get link to open.
    Abortion rights dogma can obscure human reason & harden the human heart so much that the same person who feels
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    Unborn animals are protected in their nesting places, humans are not. To abort something is to end something
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    I can't get link to open.
    Try this one:

    http://www.cnsnews.com/blog/sam-dorman/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Granule View Post
    Still not working. Will try to find another source
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thing1 View Post
    It's really weird that you wouldn't WANT this story to be valid.

    You definitely see alternatives as a "lefty" issue.
    IHA sees everything, and forms his opinions, based on what I think.

    If I see an issue one way, he will take the opposing position.

    Such is the depth of his hate for me.

    Its really quite amusing and just a bit flattering.
    What kind of country have we become?

    One in which federal prosecutors can take “evidence” before a “grand jury,”

    and that grand jury can “vote to indict” a former president for 91 alleged “crimes”?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZappasGuitar View Post
    IHA sees everything, and forms his opinions, based on what I think.

    If I see an issue one way, he will take the opposing position.

    Such is the depth of his hate for me.

    Its really quite amusing and just a bit flattering.
    Wow, you are almost delusional as Desh. Congrats, I guess?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    Wow, you are almost delusional as Desh. Congrats, I guess?
    He really is. He gives himself way too much credit. I guess if it fills the empty void in his life to think I form opinions based on what he thinks and it keeps him from being another Hodgekinson trying to assassinate politicians then I am doing the lords work

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