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    Default the bill trump tried to force on us is MEAN ACCORDING TO trump~shame, shame..

    AP sources: Trump tells senators House health bill 'mean'


    • By ALAN FRAM, ASSOCIATED PRESS

    WASHINGTON — Jun 13, 2017, 10:43 PM ET





    The Associated Press

    President Donald Trump speaks before having lunch with Republican Senators and White House staffers in the Cabinet Room of the White House in Washington, Tuesday, June 13, 2017. (AP Photo/Susan Walsh)more +

    President Donald Trump told Republican senators Tuesday that the House-passed health care bill he helped revive is "mean" and urged them to craft a version that is "more generous," congressional sources said.
    Trump's remarks were a surprising slap at a Republican-written House measure that was shepherded by Speaker Paul Ryan, R-Wis., and whose passage the president lobbied for and praised. At a Rose Garden ceremony minutes after the bill's narrow House passage on May 4, Trump called it "a great plan."
    The president's criticism, at a White House lunch with 15 GOP senators, also came as Senate Republican leaders' attempts to write their own health care package have been slowed by disagreements between their party's conservatives and moderates.
    Trump's characterizations seemed to undercut attempts by Senate leaders to assuage conservatives who want restrictions in their chamber's bill, such as cutting the Medicaid health care program for the poor and limiting the services insurers must cover. Moderate GOP senators have been pushing to ease those restrictions.
    Facing expected unanimous Democratic opposition, Republicans will be unable to pass a Senate bill if just three of the 52 GOP senators vote "no." Alienating any of them could make approving the measure trickier for Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., who's been hoping for a vote before Congress' July 4 recess.
    Trump's comments were described by two GOP congressional sources who received accounts of Tuesday's White House lunch. They spoke on condition of anonymity to reveal a closed-door conversation.
    Their descriptions of Trump's words differed slightly.
    One source said Trump called the House bill "mean, mean, mean" and said, "We need to be more generous, more kind." The other source said Trump used a vulgarity to describe the House bill and told the senators, "We need to be more generous."
    Two other congressional GOP officials confirmed that the general descriptions of Trump's words were accurate.
    The sources say the president did not specify what aspects of the bill he was characterizing.
    White House spokeswoman Sarah Huckabee Sanders declined to comment, telling reporters aboard Air Force One Tuesday evening, "We don't comment on rumors or private conversations."
    The remarks provided ammunition to Democrats who have unanimously opposed the Republican effort to dismantle President Barack Obama's health care overhaul.
    "Americans won't forget that @HouseGOP passed a 'mean' bill to rip healthcare from millions then celebrated @ the WH," said Rep. Elijah Cummings, D-Md.
    In an embarrassing retreat, Ryan had to abruptly cancel a March vote on the House measure after a revolt by Republican conservatives and moderates that would have ensured its defeat.
    The measure's final version reflected a compromise by conservative leader Rep. Mark Meadows, R-N.C., and centrist Rep. Tom MacArthur, R-N.J. They agreed to language letting states drop requirements under Obama's health care law protecting people with pre-existing medical conditions from higher premiums and requiring insurers to cover specific services like maternity care.
    At the White House ceremony celebrating House passage, Trump and Ryan praised the legislation as the fulfillment of campaign promises Trump and GOP congressional candidates had long made to repeal Obama's 2010 statute.
    "Many of you have been waiting seven years to cast this vote," Ryan said to the scores of Republican House members present. "Many of you are here because you pledged to cast this vote."
    Asked to comment on Trump's remarks about the House measure, Ryan spokeswoman AshLee Strong said, "Congressional Republicans, with President Trump's support, are working to repeal and replace this terrible Obamacare law that is harming Americans."
    Meadows, who chairs the conservative House Freedom Caucus, said, "I have no knowledge of the president characterizing the health care bill in any other way than to suggest that we need to lower premiums and" protect people with pre-existing conditions.
    MacArthur's office did not immediately respond to a request for comment on Trump's description of the bill MacArthur helped resuscitate. Just last weekend, Trump used his golf club in Bedminster, N.J., to hold a fundraising event for MacArthur that netted $800,000.
    Trump had not publicly criticized the House bill previously. But in a May 28 tweet that raised questions about his intent, he said: "I suggest that we add more dollars to Healthcare and make it the best anywhere. ObamaCare is dead - the Republicans will do much better!"
    After the meeting with senators, Trump flew to Wisconsin, where, for the second week in a row, he highlighted the stories of people whose health care premiums have increased — people the White House has dubbed "Obamacare victims."
    After meeting with two such couples after landing in Milwaukee, Trump pointed to "millions of American families" he said "continue to suffer from Obamacare while Congressional Democrats obstruct our efforts to rescue them."
    Trump did not discuss the House GOP health care plan in any detail, but said the Senate is getting ready to do something.
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    AP reporters Ricardo Alonso-Zaldivar, Kenneth Thomas and Jill Colvin contributed to this report.

    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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    bear in mind it's yet another "un-named source"..but it's all about Medicade expansion..

    We all want it, but how is it payed for? it's another entitlement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    bear in mind it's yet another "un-named source"..but it's all about Medicade expansion..

    We all want it, but how is it payed for? it's another entitlement.
    What pisses me off is that he knew it sucked, as did ryan & everyone else, & yet the SOB was more than willing to hoist that burden on us so he could get a win=POS!!
    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
    What pisses me off is that he knew it sucked, as did ryan & everyone else, & yet the SOB was more than willing to hoist that burden on us so he could get a win=POS!!
    If you like your doctor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
    What pisses me off is that he knew it sucked, as did ryan & everyone else, & yet the SOB was more than willing to hoist that burden on us so he could get a win=POS!!
    well it's not that simple. Obamacare is dying. providers are fleeing,and rates are going up.

    I don't think it can be reformed,nor do I see "Trumpcare" as viable.
    Only SP can work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    well it's not that simple. Obamacare is dying. providers are fleeing,and rates are going up.

    I don't think it can be reformed,nor do I see "Trumpcare" as viable.
    Only SP can work.
    Dying...lol Yea, that is what he is trying to do, what that party has been trying to do since before it even came about... We saw what the gop wants, hell, even the dirty said it was MEAN!!!!

    Prices going up??? Like they weren't before?? Like they never have?? SShhiissshhhHHH they go up, everything goes up.. Did Obama promise you they weren't??
    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
    Dying...lol Yea, that is what he is trying to do, what that party has been trying to do since before it even came about... We saw what the gop wants, hell, even the dirty said it was MEAN!!!!

    Prices going up??? Like they weren't before?? Like they never have?? SShhiissshhhHHH they go up, everything goes up.. Did Obama promise you they weren't??

    I guess you either never listened to the arguments against the ACA or you didn't understand/believe them.
    Everyone knew that a large influx of captive customers mixed with no price restraints was a dream situation for the insurance industry. The dems got tricked into giving away the store to the insurance companies. It's true that the insurance companies were going to do the same thing either way, but at least people could choose to avoid making them rich and save their own money in case they needed it for something instead having to pay a penalty for not wanting to enrich the greedy insurance industry.

    You guys championed this fucking mess and talked down to people like me who predicted exactly what's happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tinfoil View Post
    I guess you either never listened to the arguments against the ACA or you didn't understand/believe them.
    Everyone knew that a large influx of captive customers mixed with no price restraints was a dream situation for the insurance industry. The dems got tricked into giving away the store to the insurance companies. It's true that the insurance companies were going to do the same thing either way, but at least people could choose to avoid making them rich and save their own money in case they needed it for something instead having to pay a penalty for not wanting to enrich the greedy insurance industry.

    You guys championed this fucking mess and talked down to people like me who predicted exactly what's happened.
    I am fully aware of that.... I have never supported it.... I wanted single payer.......

    IMHO the shitty Obama plan is better than the shitty ryan plan kicking off millions of Americans.......
    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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    Quote Originally Posted by tinfoil View Post

    You guys championed this fucking mess and talked down to people like me who predicted exactly what's happened.
    Oh, you pO' victim.. Here, I feel your pain, a brand new card for you & a cookie in the mail..
    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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    LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    well it's not that simple. Obamacare is dying. providers are fleeing,and rates are going up.

    I don't think it can be reformed,nor do I see "Trumpcare" as viable.
    Only SP can work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
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    there is no link that says single payer can work because it won't work here

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    Quote Originally Posted by tinfoil View Post
    I guess you either never listened to the arguments against the ACA or you didn't understand/believe them.
    Everyone knew that a large influx of captive customers mixed with no price restraints was a dream situation for the insurance industry. The dems got tricked into giving away the store to the insurance companies. It's true that the insurance companies were going to do the same thing either way, but at least people could choose to avoid making them rich and save their own money in case they needed it for something instead having to pay a penalty for not wanting to enrich the greedy insurance industry.

    You guys championed this fucking mess and talked down to people like me who predicted exactly what's happened.
    dear fucking idiot,



    health care is rising slower under ACA


    fuck you very much


    you believe lies is why we don't listen to you

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    It's such a mean and inhumane bill it may drive some nutbag to try to kill all the republican congressmen who voted for it...


    Oh wait!
    USFREEDOM911 Expresses one of his homosexual prison rape fantasies;
    Quote Originally Posted by USFREEDOM911 View Post
    he may be getting several boners, they just won't be his.
    "You got shot in the balls and you're still walking!! Then this probably won't hurt you at all (as he unzips his pants)."




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    I would kill someone who didn't pay me, after I give them a blowjob.
    Does that make me insane?

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