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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    "Trump criticizes House health care bill"

    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/0...amacare-239504

    Now isn't the same House bill that the President had everyone get in buses to travel to the White House to celebrate because it was such a earth shattering measure?

    You have to just sit back and take it all in, it is rapidly approaching the theater of the absurd

    pay attention, I'm about to give you an education, it's free so.

    the house bill was a vehicle to get it over to the Senate, where it is being ratified, tweaked, bargained, and otherwise presentable to become the law of the land. Which it will.

    And there is nothing that the democrats can do about it, simple majority is the way this works.

    So what Trump meant was that by his standards, and frankly by any standard what came out of the house would and could never become the final version, nor was it ever intended to be.

    Once again not only does a liberal moron speak before he educates himself, he makes an entire thread to broadcast that fact. Now put your nuts back on and go read an article or two.
    The mind is a terrible thing to waste.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Getin the ring View Post
    pay attention, I'm about to give you an education, it's free so.

    the house bill was a vehicle to get it over to the Senate, where it is being ratified, tweaked, bargained, and otherwise presentable to become the law of the land. Which it will.

    And there is nothing that the democrats can do about it, simple majority is the way this works.

    So what Trump meant was that by his standards, and frankly by any standard what came out of the house would and could never become the final version, nor was it ever intended to be.

    Once again not only does a liberal moron speak before he educates himself, he makes an entire thread to broadcast that fact. Now put your nuts back on and go read an article or two.
    The mind is a terrible thing to waste.
    You pathetic Trumpsucker. Orangetweet arranged that Rose Garden celebration with the House morons who passed that piece of shit solely for the purpose of demonstrating that they finally could pass SOMETHING.

    It's not being tweaked or bargained in the Senate. They have said it was DOA.

    Trump is a fucking clown and there's no amount of clown makeup that you can remove to change that.

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    They? They have been correct about so many things lately...have THEY not? LMAO They said, "Trump will never get past the primary...They said it was nothing but a publicity stunt.....then they said Hillary has a 90% lock on the presidency....They further said that a recount would prove cheating and Russian interference...Trump picked up more votes after the recount....they said Trump would never pass muster in the actual EC vote...they said there was a DECEMBER SURPRISE awaiting the entire nation. They said Trump would never get his hand picked team confirmed....they said a conservative would never be confirmed for a SCOTUS seat.....they have constantly said...an investigation will prove Collusion with Russia...after 1 and a half years....More investigation needs to be done...

    They have a very consistent TRACK RECORD if nothing else.................The perfect "reverse barometer".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Getin the ring View Post
    pay attention, I'm about to give you an education, it's free so.

    the house bill was a vehicle to get it over to the Senate, where it is being ratified, tweaked, bargained, and otherwise presentable to become the law of the land. Which it will.

    And there is nothing that the democrats can do about it, simple majority is the way this works.

    So what Trump meant was that by his standards, and frankly by any standard what came out of the house would and could never become the final version, nor was it ever intended to be.

    Once again not only does a liberal moron speak before he educates himself, he makes an entire thread to broadcast that fact. Now put your nuts back on and go read an article or two.
    The mind is a terrible thing to waste.
    and did you see the town halls in reaction to its passing?


    no republican will get re elected

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    and did you see the town halls in reaction to its passing?


    no republican will get re elected
    Town halls? You mean DNC paid protesters sent to disrupt the meetings? Are people really that gullible? Propaganda and talk is the only weapon left (wink, wink) for the defanged left. Its not even been 6 months into a 4 year term.....how long will it take for the REAL PEOPLE to take note once the ground work for restoring Capitalism, Work/jobs, lower taxes, etc., begins to take effect due to the halt of social communism pretending to be crony capitalism is realized due to new constitutional leadership when it kicks in by years end?

    Look at the success in just 6 months with a combative press and left wing grifters pretending to be servants of the people attempting to stall everything. 3 and 1/2 more years is not a long time if you say it fast enough in spite of the fact these last 6 months has seemed like 6 years to the socialists in DC.

    And the "show" is most enjoyable....but re-runs are already beginning to be aired on a daily basis on STATE RUN TV. Is anyone really paying any attention to the latest daily scandal choreographed by the talking heads? I know its been weeks since I have paid any attention to the supposed "NEWS".....just like the rest of Middle America. Hell its summer and the people have better things to do than watch re-runs from capital hill. I must say the "Russian Collusion" mini-series is one of the longest lasting shows in recent history....its been airing for well over a year and half...and still no charges or crimes have been forthcoming..not the first indictment, with all that EVIDENCE (wink, wink)....no Gotcha, and there never will be as its not a crime to do the job that one is elected to do....establish de'tente with foreign nations.

    And its sure as hell not a crime for a business to make money through Business activities. The only way that Trump is guilty of taking money from a foreign government would be if proof would be evidenced that an actual foreign government paid Trump above and beyond what Trump Corp would normally make on everyday "business" transactions. Its not illegal for a President to be a business man nor unconstitutional...especially when separated from the day to day operations of that business enterprise by legal and binding contracts.

    That's like the Russian Collusion....there's no crime...no "there, there"...no gotcha...just wishful and hopeful fantasizing by the left. And how do they attack? By the only means they traditionally attack...a Radical left wing court system. But this time...there's soon to be MANY more conservative judges at the federal level. The left is shooting blanks...they have no powder left, they no longer control the JUSTICE DEPARTMENT or the COURTS. Jeff Sessions will simply stand back and piss all over the left...especially when a few of these (wink, wink) court decisions from the left coast are reversed by those who actually represent the RULE OF LAW as drafted and ratified.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    he did a lot of lobbying to get it thru the House.
    But the Senate has many more who want the Medicade expansion to stay.

    Frankly I don' think it's going to get done - too many disagreements.

    Single Pay is the only way
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    Does he have the balls to push for it??
    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    No, in 2009 they should have revised portions of the existing healthcare structure that were broken but Obama and congressional democrats insisted on radical surgery. Now you want to 'amend and revise' when it's too late.

    The law never should have been passed to begin with and it never should have survived SCOTUS, but here we are.

    It would be every bit the problem for a democrat controlled congress as it is for the republicans because no matter what you do some constituencies will be winners and some will be losers. And that's a recipe for political paralysis.

    Well done, Obama and the democrats.
    The Democrats have played this one well. Before Obama, there was no need for a health care bill. Somehow the nation had survived without it. But now we need one? Why? Because the Democrats said so?

    How about we reverse whatever damage ObamaCare caused and cancel it straight out. Let things go back to the way they were.

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    Quote Originally Posted by perixs View Post
    The Democrats have played this one well. Before Obama, there was no need for a health care bill. Somehow the nation had survived without it. But now we need one? Why? Because the Democrats said so?

    How about we reverse whatever damage ObamaCare caused and cancel it straight out. Let things go back to the way they were.
    Socialized medicine is the "holy grail" for communists in this nation.....its total control of a great deal of the US ECONOMY where wealth redistribution and the invasion of privacy can be mandated by the left by dictatorial "fiat"...they get to choose who worthy to live and contribute to society...who is mentally competent...whose constitutional rights must be requested from THE STATE...who is worthy of those basic guaranteed rights..etc.,

    It was their first step to the ultimate left wing WET DREAM....now its going up in smoke because of a "freak'n" reality TV STAR....they simply can't accept the reality that their fantasy is over and the nation is going backwards away from SOCIALISM...that's why they are all running around like their hair is on fire screaming and throwing tantrums on a daily basis. Its an enjoyable thing to witness but its time the "grown ups" put these children into a couple of decades timeout.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph View Post
    Socialized medicine is the "holy grail" for communists in this nation.....its total control of a great deal of the US ECONOMY where wealth redistribution and the invasion of privacy can be mandated by the left by dictatorial "fiat"...they get to choose who worthy to live and contribute to society...who is mentally competent...whose constitutional rights must be requested from THE STATE...who is worthy of those basic guaranteed rights..etc.,

    It was their first step to the ultimate left wing WET DREAM....now its going up in smoke because of a "freak'n" reality TV STAR....they simply can't accept the reality that their fantasy is over and the nation is going backwards away from SOCIALISM...that's why they are all running around like their hair is on fire screaming and throwing tantrums on a daily basis. Its an enjoyable thing to witness but its time the "grown ups" put these children into a couple of decades timeout.
    Does our militarily have anything close to COMMIE CARE??
    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
    Does our militarily have anything close to COMMIE CARE??
    Of course as an earned "benefit" of employment guaranteed by both contract and rule of law as defined by constitutional edict. Please show us the section of the Constitution that details the fact that one of the first duties of the Central Government is to establish and maintain care for all US CITIZENS the way it details the requirement to maintain and serve a US MILITARY. There is no redistribution of wealth in these rule of law constitutional requirements to all those who are qualified and have lived up to their contractual obligation as defined by oath of office.

    There is nothing wrong with a health care guarantee due to terms of employment contract...THE US "had" one of the best employee/employer systems of health insurance in the FREE WORLD....UNTIL the quest for the democrat wet dream of FREE MEDICINE for everyone was attempted to be implemented...now the employers can't afford "fair" treatment employment benefits for their employees...(THANKS BARRY/HILLARY).


    THE VA SYSTEM still exits only due to the denial that the money to fund this institute MUST BE EARNED BY SOMEONE....its one of the reasons the US now finds itself....18 trillion in the RED. This system and the supposed SOCIAL SECURITY system that is rapidly approaching collapse. Now you are suggesting FREE DRINKS and an open bar for 300 million? Really?

    And the VA (socialized) "system" is such a well oiled and functioning institute of modern medicine (that is backed by the bottomless coffers of the US TAXPAYERS with no thought to a BOTTOM LINE)....just ask any combat wounded vet who now has the OPTION to private medicine via the "veterans choice" program (Thanks Donald) when the system is so backed up that it takes more than 30 days to receive the vital and mandatory care required by law. You know simple things like MRI tests, Cancer Treatment...products and treatments that can and are available in the PRIVATE SECTION in a matter of days...not months or years awaiting in some government regulated waiting line......as defined by some pencil dicked bureaucrat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    "Trump criticizes House health care bill"

    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/0...amacare-239504

    Now isn't the same House bill that the President had everyone get in buses to travel to the White House to celebrate because it was such a earth shattering measure?

    You have to just sit back and take it all in, it is rapidly approaching the theater of the absurd
    Are you claiming to be objective

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph View Post
    Of course
    So it's good enough for our military...lol
    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
    So it's good enough for our military...lol
    I would not use "good enough" to describe the VA SYSTEM. And of course YOU ARE more than welcome to the SYSTEM...all you need do is get your liberal ass in the grass along side us "qualified" to receive the benefits EARNED by personal oath and contract. Are you ready and willing to place your life on the line to earn the right to the system or do you claim that right by birth with no personal sacrifice or risk on your part? Hell let your neighbor EARN your health care benefits...right comrade, everyone should share for the common good of the village?

    Indeed. Laugh My Ass Off

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph View Post
    I would not use "good enough" to describe the VA SYSTEM. And of course YOU ARE more than welcome to the SYSTEM...all you need do is get your liberal ass in the grass along side us "qualified" to receive the benefits EARNED by personal oath and contract.
    So you are saying you served & received free commie care??
    "There is no question former President Trump bears moral responsibility. His supporters stormed the Capitol because of the unhinged falsehoods he shouted into the world’s largest megaphone," McConnell wrote. "His behavior during and after the chaos was also unconscionable, from attacking Vice President Mike Pence during the riot to praising the criminals after it ended."



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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
    So you are saying you served & received free commie care??
    oops....
    Last edited by Ralph; 06-15-2017 at 07:30 AM.

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