Bill (06-14-2017), christiefan915 (06-14-2017), Cypress (06-13-2017), Phantasmal (06-13-2017)
"Trump criticizes House health care bill"
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/0...amacare-239504
Now isn't the same House bill that the President had everyone get in buses to travel to the White House to celebrate because it was such a earth shattering measure?
You have to just sit back and take it all in, it is rapidly approaching the theater of the absurd
Bill (06-14-2017), christiefan915 (06-14-2017), Cypress (06-13-2017), Phantasmal (06-13-2017)
he did a lot of lobbying to get it thru the House.The meeting left some Republicans on Capitol Hill with the impression that Trump is siding with more moderate Republicans, particularly when it comes to winding down Obamacare’s Medicaid expansion, which brought insurance coverage to millions of people.
But the Senate has many more who want the Medicade expansion to stay.
Frankly I don' think it's going to get done - too many disagreements.
Single Pay is the only way.
Bill (06-14-2017)
"The president also said Republicans risk getting savaged in the 2018 midterms if they fail to repeal Obamacare after a seven-year campaign against the law.
But he made clear that the Senate needs to pass a bill that Republicans are able to more easily defend and is not viewed as an attack on low-income Americans as the House bill has been portrayed by critics, the sources said. He also advocated for more robust tax credits for people who buy insurance on the individual market, a move that would increase the bill’s cost.
Sen. Rob Portman (R-Ohio), who is pushing the Senate to slow the repeal of Medicaid expansion, indicated Trump is concerned about the people who are enrolled in the program for low-income Americans.
“He talked about the need to take care of people,” Portman said of the president."
I agree. Do it slower, do it right. Surely you cannot argue with that.
Observation remains why is he now criticizing a measure that last month he celebrated?
Understandable they want to get something, anything, thru to at least create the impression that they are working on it, but why all the contradictions, all the secrecy, all the mystery? It ain't making the man the good, to anyone
Phantasmal (06-13-2017)
Cypress (06-13-2017)
You know, they should keep Obamacare for a while and really, really study this thing. Make it years. Do it right. Find the most non partisan members of Congress they can find and let them figure it out. Every single time this nation rushes into anything it just never works out.
They should amend and revise the sections of the ACA that don't work and come up with a compromised solutions. You won't agree, but that was the intent of the law from the beginning, it was always intended as a work in progress, but partisan politics got in the way. It was a conservative concept, born in the Heritage Foundation, and was the solution offered short of single payer insurance.
As long as the ACA is refereed to as Obamacare, it has political baggage, meaning they are stuck now to come up with something that has no relation to the ACA, meaning they have an impossible task. Watch for McConnell to introduce something that will appease the GOP moderates for the 2018 election but has not chance of actually passing
I love the smell of takers losing their healthcare in the morning.
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No, in 2009 they should have revised portions of the existing healthcare structure that were broken but Obama and congressional democrats insisted on radical surgery. Now you want to 'amend and revise' when it's too late.
The law never should have been passed to begin with and it never should have survived SCOTUS, but here we are.
It would be every bit the problem for a democrat controlled congress as it is for the republicans because no matter what you do some constituencies will be winners and some will be losers. And that's a recipe for political paralysis.
Well done, Obama and the democrats.
Coup has started. First of many steps. Impeachment will follow ultimately~WB attorney Mark Zaid, January 2017
No law should be on the books that makes the PEOPLE purchase a product they don't want and don't need in order to redistribute that personal wealth to OTHER CITIZENS....its unconstitutional as hell....its simply a social redistribution of wealth scam that the democrats "assumed" would never be rescinded once it had 6 years to take root as a social "giveaway".....they assumed the system would fail (as it was designed to do) and it would be a cake walk for the central government to take total control of the health care industry (under the pretense of helping THE PEOPLE gain access to healthcare through a government/taxpayer/people funded single payer system) and end capitalism within one of the 4 major objectives of all fascist government coup de'tats.
1. Take control of all aspects of banking and property ownership 2. disarm THE PEOPLE 3. take editing control of all national media outlets...news, entertainment, print and theater..etc., and 4. take control of the healtcare industry and the private information found with every patient.
Just a little research into this historical reality will find that all fascists have followed this simple plan throughout recorded history.
Now remind us again....which major political party demands total government control over banking, property ownership, weapons control, healthcare and speech? Which party constantly attacks the 2nd amendment...attempts to silence all 1st amendment speech they disagree with....and now has been charged with openly using government agencies to spy on opposing political parties while leaking speech protected under the constitution? Is it those damn evil neo-cons? LMAO
Reality Check: Does it really matter if NOTHING takes the place of the boondoggle known as Obama Care? The people would be better off than they have found themselves over the past 6 years (at least the majority of the PEOPLE could afford health care PRE-OBAMA CARE)....now only the wealthy can afford "good" insurance in the ashes of Obama Care. Get the government out of the way and the system would correct itself to PRE-OBAMA borders and THE PEOPLE would have all the time in the would to work out a system that actually HELPS those who need it most...the working poor (as the dead beat poor....those that work harder not to get a paycheck than they ever would at a real job already have access to the best health care on earth).
Last edited by Ralph; 06-14-2017 at 05:42 AM.
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