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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    Self-awareness is thinking "What will I have for dinner?" not "hungry. find food." A dog does not think about that asshole dog, Bob, down the street who is always shitting on his master's lawn. A dog does immediately react to the sight of Bob with anger.

    A dog is pure zen. It lives each moment to moment but it's not self-aware. It simply lives the moment. If it's hungry it wants to eat. If cold it wants to be warm. It doesn't plan for winter or summer.
    Yet a dog learns. It can learn about things like snow, who it's owner is, it's own name, it's favorite food, etc. A dog has no religion. It is not a Buddhist.
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    "There is no such thing as 'planetary science'."

    Tell that to the planetary scientists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    Those who take the Bible literally are limiting God to a book written by man.
    Nothing limits God in the Bible. Why do you think it does?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Yet a dog learns. It can learn about things like snow, who it's owner is, it's own name, it's favorite food, etc. A dog has no religion. It is not a Buddhist.
    A Furby can learn.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    I theorized that one reason the numbers for Republicans changed was due to the Republican party shrinking, leaving only the nutjobs behind, but I haven't been able to back up that theory with available evidence.

    Example:
    https://news.gallup.com/poll/15370/p...filiation.aspx

    Republicans Independents Democrats

    2021 May 3-18 29 35 33
    2013 Dec 5-8 24 44 30
    2009 Dec 11-13 29 36 33
    Probably because you are searching propaganda for the evidence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    We’ve been drowning in pseudoscience for over a year lol.

    And I never heard a peep out of you.
    Years and years. Indeed, decades.
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    My dog is a secular canine-ist herself, but she begrudging tolerates her family's secular humanism.
    We might be able to get along better if we try harder,
    but really,
    who's counting on that?
    Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel. Samuel Johnson, 1775
    Religion....is the opiate of the people. Karl Marx, 1848
    Freedom's just another word for nothin' left to lose. Kris Kristofferson, 1969

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    I also think these days it is widely considered a mark of ignorance to deny evolution by natural selection.
    Not adhering to your religion does not make one ignorant. Circular argument fallacy (fundamentalism).
    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    25 years ago, a bible thumper could sort of get away with a strictly creation science posture.
    The Theory of Creation is not a theory of science.
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    These days, a creation scientist is laughed out of the room.
    The Theory of Creation is not a theory of science. There is no 'creation science'.
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    You can even see bible thumpers on this thead grudgingly accept the tenets of evolution, while still trying to inject providential design into it
    The Theory of Evolution is not a theory of science. There is no 'evolution science'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    The language of science is neccessary to communicate and research relevant scientific topics.
    Science is not a language. You are not discussing science. Religion is not science. The Theory of Abiogenesis is not a theory of science. There is no 'abiogenesis science'.
    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    If you find yourself confused and befuddled by terms like cyanobacteria and prokaryotes, it's time for you to gracefully bow out of any serious discussion of abiogenesis and biological emergence.
    Buzzword fallacies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    There is no such thing as 'planetary science'!
    "NASA Planetary Science program"
    https://science.nasa.gov/solar-system

    What water erosion features?
    NASA: Evidence for water erosion on Mars
    https://astrobiology.nasa.gov/news/s...osion-on-mars/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    According to the data, is it safe to call the Republican Party the Party of Ignorance...with Trump as the King of Stupidity?


    Note that the percentage of Republicans who believe the Earth is 6000 years old, just as the Bible says, is also approximately the same number refusing vaccines.
    Making up numbers again?
    You don't get to speak for everyone. You only get to speak for yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Nothing limits God in the Bible. Why do you think it does?
    Try reading it again slowly but drop your prejudices. People who take the Bible literally are limiting God to the Bible. The Bible itself tells a story. It's not limiting God, the people taking it literally are doing so.
    God bless America and those who defend our Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    Creationist museums should be forced to close unless they are licensed as amusement parks.
    They are licensed as amusement parks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    Agreed. Most cultures have creation stories be it turtles, buffalo or anything else. Likewise, only the ignorant in those cultures believe the stories over scientific evidence.
    Science isn't evidence. Science is a set of falsifiable theories. There is no such thing as 'scientific evidence'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Uncle View Post
    Or designate themselves as a religious belief, not fact.
    It is a religion. That's a fact.
    "The atmosphere is among the factors that determines the Earth's atmosphere." --ZenMode
    "Donald has failed in almost every endeavor he has attempted. " --floridafan
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