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    Quote Originally Posted by BidenPresident View Post
    Not playing your game. By the way, there is not agreement in physics that they understand gravity.
    The Theory of Gravity does not explain what gravity is. It only describes a relation that applies to a force which we call 'gravity'.
    Newton never tried to explain gravity, he just simply accepted it's existence and went to describe the effects of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    Genetics is the hot science now, and that is where most funding is going.

    Physics is a venerable and traditional science, but the interest in funding big projects for particle physics and nuclear physics has waned since the Cold War ended.
    Science is not an area of study. Science is a set of falsifiable theories.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    The Theory of Gravity does not explain what gravity is. It only describes a relation that applies to a force which we call 'gravity'.
    Newton never tried to explain gravity, he just simply accepted it's existence and went to describe the effects of it.
    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    so the vaccines job was to let those who were vaccinated become more easily infected, allow them to easily infect others, and may or may not hide the symptoms? why do we have that vaccine, then?



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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    A theory is a hypothesis with supporting evidence.
    No. A theory is an explanatory argument. An argument is a set of predicates and a conclusion. A hypothesis stems from a theory, not the other way 'round. Example: the null hypothesis of a theory.

    Only religions use supporting evidence. Science doesn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    No. A theory is an explanatory argument. An argument is a set of predicates and a conclusion. A hypothesis stems from a theory, not the other way 'round. Example: the null hypothesis of a theory.

    Only religions use supporting evidence. Science doesn't.
    Thank you for the additional quote for my sig. See below.
    Quote Originally Posted by SmarterthanYou View Post
    so the vaccines job was to let those who were vaccinated become more easily infected, allow them to easily infect others, and may or may not hide the symptoms? why do we have that vaccine, then?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    We know our understanding of gravity, aka general relativity. is incomplete and perhaps in need of wholesale revision.

    General relativity cannot explain dark energy and the accelerated expansion of the universe.

    General relativity breaks down at quantum scales, and the hunt for a quantum theory of gravity is an active area of research.
    You are trying to falsify theories by denying them or taking them out of context. Won't work.
    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    The fact that an apple falls to the ground, or a body falls into a crocodile pit is an observation. An observation only.

    It has no explanatory power.
    These facts are not theories. Explaining why the apple falls to the ground, or why it falls as fast as it does, IS a theory. A theory is an explanatory argument.
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    The theory of evolution is secure and at least as firmly established as general relativity
    The Theory of Evolution is not a theory of science. The Theory of General Relativity is falsifiable. The Theory of Evolution is not.
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    -- even though we know both theories are incomplete and there is a lot more to learn.
    Every theory is complete. They are each complete arguments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    That's right.
    Divine providence is outside the realm of inductive logic and scientific inquiry.
    There is no such thing as 'scientific' inquiry. Science is not an inquiry. Science is a set of falsifiable theories.
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    But you know as well as I do that biblethumpers latch onto to any uncertainty in a scientific theory,
    Hallucination. Bigotry. A theory of science is not a proof. Proofs are not possible in open functional systems.
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    and imply that the uncertainty somehow lends support to a providential act of creation.
    The Theory of Creation is not a scientific theory.
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    I have never categorically ruled out the possibility of providential design.
    Yes you have, liar.
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    But providential design is never, ever, under any circumstances implied or supported by scientific uncertainty.
    Science isn't a 'certainty'. Science is a set of falsifiable theories.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    I think gravity is just that, an acceleration.
    Gravity is a force, not acceleration itself. Gravity can certainly cause acceleration though!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    Nor is it buttressed by perceived complexity or a prejudice favoring design. Yes, God in the gaps is always an obvious ploy.

    What about this fossil. Where's that fossils fossil. Here it is. What about that ones? Here. and so forth ad nausium.
    What about 'em? Meh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    I think of gravity as a geometry.

    The curvature of spacetime.
    Gravity is a force. Its effects can be represented graphically in many ways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AProudLefty View Post
    Exactly. Which is why I think they have been unable to reconcile it with Quantum Mechanics.
    Quantum mechanics does not deny the effects of gravity or deny the existence of that force at all. It simply doesn't bother to use it in its models. That's not what quantum mechanics is about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    ????.....dude, it is called the scientific method.......always has been, always will be.....
    Nope. Science isn't a 'method' or a 'procedure'. It is just the falsifiable theories themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    have you ever heard of the scientific method?....it has not changed....

    https://www.britannica.com/science/scientific-method
    The Britannica does not define 'science'. It is an encyclopedia, nothing more.
    The problem with this 'method' is that it can be (and indeed it was) used to try to define God as 'science'.

    Science does not use supporting evidence. Only religions do that. Science is only interested in conflicting evidence. Science is nothing more than a set of falsifiable theories. There is no 'method' to science. There is no 'procedure' to science.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    The Theory of Gravity does not explain what gravity is. It only describes a relation that applies to a force which we call 'gravity'.
    Newton never tried to explain gravity, he just simply accepted it's existence and went to describe the effects of it.
    Formally, yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    didn't say it was, idiot.....do you actually know anything at all about science?.......if something is not capable of experimentation (ie is not falsifiable) it cannot be subject to the scientific method.......it is then, not a subject for study by science.......
    Science isn't a 'method' or 'procedure'. It is just a set of falsifiable theories.
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