Terrible news for the Creation Science museum (and Republicans)

[Cypress]

My sense of certainty is infuriated by that idea of matter bubbling in and out of existence randomly in quantum theory. That pisses me off.

The quantum foam and quantum entanglement are kind of spooky.

Quantum physics freaks me out a little because it calls into question our very conception of objective reality.

We have a very good idea of how quantum mechanics works.

We really are in the dark about why it works.

[Darth Omar]

When an animal inherits a better trait to survive, it's generation continues to carry the better trait, helping them to survive better.

It would have be a novel trait; furthermore, ‘the faster gazelle’ would have to be lucky enough to always being paying attention the water hole lest it be eaten by a croc. ALWAYS, ALWAYS be alert at the water hole. Or otherwise get eaten when raw speed wouldn’t matter.

Then, it has a chance to pass on the novel trait. Or well, wait. If it’s a male it may have to be a dominant male or may not even get the chance to.

Amazing to think it actually worked that way. Or, maybe it actually didn’t lol. Our natural philosophers assure us it did though. I can never decide if they’re right or not.

[Cypress]

So how do you get the variety to select from in the first place? You have to suspend natural selection. You can't.

Genetic variation and genetic mutation are inherent in all species.

Environmentally-favorable genetic mutations are preferentially selected for survival.

[AProudLefty]

It would have be a novel trait; furthermore, ‘the faster gazelle’ would have to be lucky enough to always being paying at the water hole lest it be eaten by a croc. ALWAYS, ALWAYS be alert at the water hole. Or otherwise get eaten when raw speed wouldn’t matter.

Then, it has a chance to pass on the novel trait. Or well, wait. If it’s a male it may have to be a dominant male or may not even get the chance to.

Amazing to think it actually worked that way. Or, maybe it actually didn’t lol. Our natural philosophers assure us it did though. I can never decide if they’re right or not.

Well if the "faster gazelles" were kept being eaten by crocs, then they would be selected out of the evolutionary tree, wouldn't it?

[Darth Omar]

Please explain what science "beyond the reach of science" is. Never heard of Darwin commenting on this idea.

You’re familiar with this subject lol?

Such questions as origins of species, and ultimately man, were considered part of philosophy or religion during Darwin’s day. And again, as pointed out already, they considered themselves natural *philosophers*.

And not improperly, in my mind. It’s not *logically* unfair to consider them natural historians because what they come up with is an historical account of nature. That might actually be the most accurate description.

[BidenPresident]

You’re familiar with this subject lol?

Bad move to start with a personal attack.

[Darth Omar]

Well if the "faster gazelles" were kept being eaten by crocs, then they would be selected out of the evolutionary tree, wouldn't it?

If you’re talking about raw speed [instead of reflexes], yes they would be lol.

Don’t think about it too much or you’ll wind up a skeptic like me.

[BidenPresident]

You’re familiar with this subject lol?

Such questions as origins of species, and ultimately man, were considered part of philosophy or religion during Darwin’s day. And again, as pointed out already, they considered themselves natural *philosophers*.

And not improperly, in my mind. It’s not *logically* unfair to consider them natural historians because what they come up with is an historical account of nature. That might actually be the most accurate description.

Darwin was not giving a historical account, but the causes for change in species.

[AProudLefty]

If you’re talking about raw speed [instead of reflexes], yes they would be lol.

Don’t think about it too much or you’ll wind up a skeptic like me.

LOL. I was a Christian who believed in Creationism.

[Darth Omar]

Bad move to start with a personal attack.

You seemed to imply I’m making crap up.

[BidenPresident]

You seemed to imply I’m making crap up.

Not me. Wrong person.

[Darth Omar]

LOL. I was a Christian who believed in Creationism.

Me too!

Then I went all in with evolution in college. Then I became a lapsed evolutionist once I was exposed to some ‘forbidden literature’ and began to doubt some of the things I learnt.

And now, I’m not sure what I am. But the subject has always fascinated me.

[Darth Omar]

Not me. Wrong person.

My apologies then.

[AProudLefty]

Me too!

Then I went all in with evolution in college. Then I became a lapsed evolutionist once I was exposed to some ‘forbidden literature’ and began to doubt some of the things I learnt.

And now, I’m not sure what I am. But the subject has always fascinated me.

The terms "evolutionist" and "evolutionism" mean it's a belief, a religion.

[Darth Omar]

Darwin was not giving a historical account, but the causes for change in species.

That was the simply the mechanism.

Common descent, the fossil record and the rest isn’t an historical account?

What do you call it then?