Thousands dropped from food stamps due to work requirements

[USFREEDOM911]

Well I didn't want to preach, but it is Sunday, do you need a lil Sunday Schoolin???

Not me; but there are some JPP liberals who might benefit.

[Cypress]

Government should not be taxing citizens for the religious beliefs of some (even if a majority). And, it is not just my opinion but prohibited by the the 1st Amendment (if the law mentioned any religious purpose).

Would you object to your tax money going to the Methodist Church so they could help the poor?

Social welfare programs are not based on religious convictions. They are supported by atheists, agnostics, Muslims, Jews, Christians, and Wicca. By people with religious faith, and by those without.

Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Native American shamans, atheists, Taoists, Buddhists, and agnositcs would probably have a problem giving money to the Methodist and Catholic church to run the nation's food stamps program.

Beyond that, I am not sure it is constitutional to have a government pay churches to run major social programs, it would be untested experiment for which we have no evidence would work, and when this nation did rely on charity it was during the Guilded Age when poverty and destitution were rampant in spite of the efforts of charity.

"In my opinion it is harmful to place important things in the hands of philanthropy, which in Russia is marked by a chance character. Nor should important matters depend on leftovers, which are never there. I would prefer that the government treasury take care of it."

-Anton Chekhov

[Bill]

Not me; but there are some JPP liberals who might benefit.

Well it has been a while:

Uuuhhmmm, hummm, Dear Lord, pls bless this pile of worthless wretches tho has set before me, & please grant me the wisdom ~ Pastor Freedom gets the next line...

[USFREEDOM911]

Well it has been a while:

Uuuhhmmm, hummm, Dear Lord, pls bless this pile of worthless wretches tho has set before me, & please grant me the wisdom ~ Pastor Freedom gets the next line...

OH, I'm far from being a pastor; but I have thought about becoming an Ordained Minister, just so I could do marriages and funerals.

Become an Ordained Minister

[CFM]

The Bible doesn’t talk about many things, it was 2,000 years ago, you’re ignorance astounding.

God's word is the same today, yesterday, and forever. Time is irrelevant except to those that don't like what it says.

The Bible does talk about homosexuality and how it's an abomination.

[Phantasmal]

God's word is the same today, yesterday, and forever. Time is irrelevant except to those that don't like what it says.

The Bible does talk about homosexuality and how it's an abomination.

So is eating shellfish, having sex on your period, and mixing fabrics.

[CFM]

So is eating shellfish, having sex on your period, and mixing fabrics.

That's OT. The NT is clear about homosexuality, it's sinful nature, and the "reward" you homosexuals will receive for your choice.

[Bill]

OH, I'm far from being a pastor; but I have thought about becoming an Ordained Minister, just so I could do marriages and funerals.

Become an Ordained Minister

LOL, I have a friend that does it.. He is kinda kooky anyway, but he gets about 8-10 gigs a year & has a great time & gets new contacts, free food & on occasion lucky w/ some well "seasoned" drunk ladies........

He has done the Mt's, the ocean & a nude weeding once on the beach, although he didn't have to partake (it was optional)..

[USFREEDOM911]

LOL, I have a friend that does it.. He is kinda kooky anyway, but he gets about 8-10 gigs a year & has a great time & gets new contacts, free food & on occasion lucky w/ some well "seasoned" drunk ladies........

He has done the Mt's, the ocean & a nude weeding once on the beach, although he didn't have to partake (it was optional)..

[Flash]

Social welfare programs are not based on religious convictions. They are supported by atheists, agnostics, Muslims, Jews, Christians, and Wicca. By people with religious faith, and by those without.

Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Native American shamans, atheists, Taoists, Buddhists, and agnositcs would probably have a problem giving money to the Methodist and Catholic church to run the nation's food stamps program.

Beyond that, I am not sure it is constitutional to have a government pay churches to run major social programs, it would be untested experiment for which we have no evidence would work, and when this nation did rely on charity it was during the Guilded Age when poverty and destitution were rampant in spite of the efforts of charity.

Yes, I know social welfare programs are not (necessarily) based on religious convictions. That was my point that when Jesus instructed to help the poor he was not talking to the government and people who do want the government to have these programs do not favor them because of Jesus. That was the point I was making to Phantasmal.

Such church programs are constitutional as long as they keep the federal funded programs separate from religious activities. The faith based initiatives program was established by Bush (White House Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives (OFBCI) and continued under Obama under a different name. It continues to exist but has no director.

[Bill]

Yes, I know social welfare programs are not (necessarily) based on religious convictions. That was my point that when Jesus instructed to help the poor he was not talking to the government and people who do want the government to have these programs do not favor them because of Jesus. That was the point I was making to Phantasmal.

Such church programs are constitutional as long as they keep the federal funded programs separate from religious activities. The faith based initiatives program was established by Bush (White House Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives (OFBCI) and continued under Obama under a different name. It continues to exist but has no director.

A few things for thought.. When Jesus said that those ppl were paying their taxes to Rome, they were also paying their tithe to the Jewish authorties, who were also the religious authorities @ the time, a part of which was used to help the poor, widows etc...

[Mason Michaels]

God's word is the same today, yesterday, and forever. Time is irrelevant except to those that don't like what it says.

The Bible does talk about homosexuality and how it's an abomination.

Quote chapter and verse where Jesus condemned homosexuals.

[Mason Michaels]

That's OT. The NT is clear about homosexuality, it's sinful nature, and the "reward" you homosexuals will receive for your choice.

Jesus condemned homosexuals in what chapter and verse

[CFM]

Jesus condemned homosexuals in what chapter and verse

It's clear you're afraid of the "reward" you'll receive for being one, faggot.

[CFM]

Quote chapter and verse where Jesus condemned homosexuals.

Quote the chapter and verse where God says you being a fag is acceptable.